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Baccarat Finally figured out something that keeps working!

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jae, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Well, if the game ain't streaky and it ain't choppy what is it, exactly, hey hey????
     
  2. Alec

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    Hello @Jae , I am playing your style for almost 10 days straight now! I started with 1500 unit, and by now won around 1350 unit. I had 1 very bad run which went to 1300 count and bet size 104! I almost accept I will bust but hopefully it recovered. I went over 500 3-4 times but max was around 720unit. Just want to say thank you man! I will keep play and give update hopefully with positive results by next month.
     
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  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well good on you! The grinds do resolve. I'm curious to know how many grinds did you have to go through; how many shoes or hours did it take to hit your trigger; and what count did you decide to begin the grind on? I'm guessing it was stadium of course. Did you follow one shoe or combine them? When I did my short test I didn't use the same shoe just the next one that came up.

    Cheers
     
  4. Zhang Wei

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    Usually a mixture of everything.
     
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  5. Zhang Wei

    Zhang Wei Active Member

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    Good job. Keep it up since it works for you. I am content with max bet size 4 units and stop loss -20 units.
     
  6. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Right. Average non tie 8 deck is about 72 decisions. 1's and 2's account for about 36 (choppy) 3's+ the other 36 (streaky). Of course the soxfan genius counted all the P's and B's in 8000 shoes? Nope. He's too lazy to put together real stats.
     
  7. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Congratulation, you flunk baccarats 101, hey hey!!!!
     

  8. Zhang Wei

    Zhang Wei Active Member

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    Whatever. I win more than 50% of the time. That's what matters.
     
  9. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What do you mean by that, winning more than 50% of the time, I know the truth behind successful flatbetting and that is not the answer.
    Variance and hovering around average can give momentum of strikes at or above 50%.
    But you can not have any selection process or march that achieves more than what the math behind the game dictates, is just impossible.
    So yes some kind of pendulum effect is possible, but stating that you win more than 50% of the time is impossible.
    That would mean you could get the Nobel prize in medicine or other areas succeeding with such achievement.
    As you have figured out how to beat a random game.
    The best someone can do is succeed in flat betting during periods and when not using Holloway or any other conservative progression.
    And is not possible to win more flat betting sessions using periodic cycles as that isn't different from tackling the game as a marathon race and not a sprint.
     
  10. Richie

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    Look at you sniffing around Oscar's grind breadcrumbs lol, "The grinds do resolve" is what you sputtered about whilst drinking your soya milk..how about "get the fu^k outta here and stick to $1000 elevator rides?"
     
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  11. Richie

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    ...probably quicker to ride that elevator 10 times a day rather than playing your Oscars grind once and trying to get back to break even.
     
  12. Zhang Wei

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    Sputnik's march also beat the game, no?
     
  13. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Some parts have been part of the process for the conclusions and achievements.

    Cheers
     
  14. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I can mention something that I am looking into - I save a bad session where +3 STD strikes and replay the session testing different angles.
    I notice using the Holloway as usual but after a win, you don't regress to some degree, you continue to increase until a tie or new high.
    This requires fewer winning events than using regression to reach a tie or a new high.

    It was new news for me and maybe some members in this forum already know that, but I didn't.

    Cheers
     

  15. cps10

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    I like escalating on a win or loss these days. Until a tie or new high. Have you taken that approach Patrik?
     
  16. Jimske

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    I can't much make a lot of sense out of your posts. Like here for instance. Why are you asking me about JAE's stuff?

    Hahahah. You're still upset because I said your full of poooooo! I apologize. I didn't realize you were having such an aggravating time gambling. Feel better!
     
  17. Sputnik

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    Math and probability can not beat the game and each even money event is independent.
    You can flat betting to certian extant exploring the pendulum effect with common periodic events.
    Where the main and basic method encounter an even play or explore to hovering around the middle.
    That way you will have moments for 1000 placed bets with a positive return during many sessions.
    But when the other side of the pendulum effect and the common periodic event is not have the expected frequencie you will have the other side staying ahead for example eight hour in front of one roulette table.
    This can be explained as there at some times is no small, middle or large correction tipping towards your side and the other side stays ahead without fully recoup.
    The only solution in such situation is to use a kind and conservative progression to tackle some degree of imbalance to achive an tie and start over.
    But at some point the amount of trails and missing winning events will be less then what the progression can handle and then the method will bust.
     
  18. Duongban1984

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    I agree with everything you said. but using progress while the hands are not tilted towards our betting choices, this increases the level of bankruptcy. highest level of risk. This is something I have gone bankrupt many times, as have many others. 1 alternative solution. stop loss and leave. At another time, when the cards are in favor of my bet choice, I will increase the unit size by x2 to recover. If it continues unfavorably. repeat the process. just personal opinion.
     

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