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Roulette Reading Randomness

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by gizmotron, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    I really have to agree with this post. As there are so many combinations, patterns, streaks and non streaks, ( which is a streak In itself haa ha ) which makes it impossible for one person to verify that all possible combinations etc can be eye witnessed and validated. There is not enough alive time available to the human, because you ran a sim , you still haven’t witnessed it as per say.
    As to the question of which is better a live shoe, spins, or a R N G generated list, or som sim from some web page on the interverse, I would think any method/ system/ preferred procedure should be able to work regardless of where or what produced the data
    In other words it works or it doesn’t and should not be bound to certain criteria such as , ( as an example people) this book system only works on live play , but my tech guys ran it through a gizillon hands prior to publishing BUT don’t use this on RNG play.
    Or , (as an example once again ) I won 50 consecutive spins/ hands in a row my method/ application used a sim but you cannot use it on live play.
    As I say I agree with the above post, old data don’t change where it comes from , it is used as it is . It will validate what you do or it will not .
    Only use this method if dealer has an eye patch and a peg leg whilst dealing baccarat, so not likely.

    The streak or whatever you may have seen it once, twice or more but the other person in the other interverse may never get to see it in his/ her lifetime . It doesn’t make either person right or wrong for seeing it or not seeing it.
    So I have posted this forum before it works until it doesn’t. In other words there is no holy grail, imho, you me him her maybe able to achieve some sort of success for x amount of time or money but there is no gambling grail.
    I have recorded many thousands of hands and spins ( roulette) from live play equally I have recorded tens of thousands of RNG generated results, baccarat and roulette, all this is in chunk form meaning 70-80shoe hands, 100+ spins live, and various amounts of r n g . I use the same record format of X = player and Red
    O = banker and black
    No continuous data stream as I sleep, live etc
    Whatever application I use it must be able to work on roulette or baccarat as per the two option win or lose red or black , banker or player , yes I know zero etc but keep it simple, if it does , well good my methods work until it stops, take a break, come back start again.
    But preference for me is RNG as it’s very quick as opposed to table play time duration and in my honest opinion there is no rigged or biased results, there are no unusual long streaks or no non streaks it is exactly as it is, it is up to me ( the individual) to navigate my way through for a profit or loss with what is Happening IN REAL TIME in front of me.
    I really make no claims as that I have a holy grail approach but it is working for me until it doesn’t, then I will change and adapt as needed.
    Cheers
     
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    But wait, what about Gizmo's blow up doll, maybe she has the HG, maybe it's Gizmo's 50x wins in a row that he has seen over and over again in his doll's eyes when...you know, testing it out on his simulator! ROFL since he can't do it for real... lol tut tut maybe the feds will drag him off of the doll in for questioning. But Gizzo will feel at home feeling the rubber walls in his padded cell! This will remind him of his Glenda doll!
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You don't count anymore cPussy. You are not needed to prove you are a liar. You are a scumbag scam artist, total bullshit author. Everyone of your cornball systems can be proven as total junk. I knew it was BS but demonstrating what shit they are is just enough to fix your worthless genius.

    Let's recall your plagiarism, you brainless chump. You tried to call me your bitch, I responded with a picture of a blow up sex toy and said this is your bitch. I recall a clever connection to you thinking you were privy to where the cream goes. It was you jackass that was my inspiration. You are a continuous inspiration for ridicule.

    But you have gotten desperate and are leaning on deflection. I have used you so many times for "put down" jokes that you look like Swiss Cheese.

    But the best is that you don't need to chicken out anymore. You'll get thrown under the bus on your own magnificent publishing.
     
  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So start an original thread and start discussing it.
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Still living in your head rent free. seePussy, the greatest gambling genius since ... well since ever.
     
  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    How do you guys log into Roulette Simulator with different names?
     
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    This shows a very very very poor understanding of statistics and logical reasoning.
    This sentence shows it clear.
    Dupe you better go.
     

  8. cluedupcity

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    Oh yeah, I go alright, I go to the reality of live roulette wheels not bias roulette simulators that are aware of the bet selection wagers placed before it gives the outcomes. In live roulette the dealer-ball-wheel relationship natural motion and flow of the game has no bearing on a player's bet selection! Oh Yeah, I go, I go into reality real world while many remain in delusional simulator world. Of course, I know nothing about roulette, tut tut and the simulator knows everything...everything the user of it hopes that it does not know! smoke and mirrors.
     
  9. Punkcity

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    Done already ,already posted as stadium play feb to aug 2019
    plenty of views , very few reply for active positive dialogue , positive replys /questions all answered , I think yourself and a couple of others only wanted to mention your own views and as i thought it was of no informative value to any one in regards to the thread I took it no further.

    To be completely honest somewhere after my post this page and your quoted post this post , and no Im not being a smartarse ,at this instance at least, I had thought of a thread title to post as Open dialogue re method de traditional pathways to the illusive grail. But rather than open conversation of pros and cons , why for why nots , perhaps this way or that way , I thought it would end up a waste of time as it would just become a shouting ( typing ) match of who got the biggest ego, agenda, penis, vagina , ( no pun intended but ) insert adjective here, insert expletive etc. To coin your phrase mathzombies would go nuts . So no not worth the time. But thanks for the suggestion, I had posted in my very first post here how this site seemed to be better adjusted than the Wizard site , sadly I was wrong , no suspension clause on this forum so it goes sideways very quickly , very emotive posters here. Hey Im no angel and always happy to punch on when needed

    This will most likely be my last few posts here this forum as I prefer to play at the casino ( upon casino safely re open etc) the approach i use re my thread stadium play ,than really engage in sites as this. As I said we are all on a forced break from work re corona virus etc

    cheers
     
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    That was a good thread. Anyone that can get into a conversation with gr8player is doing very good.

    There are 276 posts in that thread. I posted twice. The first post you liked. The second post was about virtual bets and I answered in context. I got no response so I figured that I would not interrupt the thread any further unless engaged. So as you can see I did not post in your thread again. This did not mean that I was only interested in myself. This is a discussion forum when people can manage to stay in the conversation and discuss ideas. I'm polite to anyone that really wants to discuss the topic of gambling. I'm not polite to people that go out of their way to attack me. This forum does have a reputation for going after scammers. It hardly tolerates the ubiquitous excited Martingale enthusiasts that come around once or twice per year.

    You had a good thread. I lost interest. But I never drew an opinion that it was good or bad. If gr8player took an interest then that made me want to see where you were coming from. You never know where an idea that helps you will come from. I got where I am now with Reading Randomness because someone here posted a video on trading stocks like a casino. I got control of my gambling because of conversations from a person half way around the world. It's a conglomerate of little things here and there.

    I see people in stages of their own gambling development. They start out with progressions. They eventually try to unpack randomness when they get near the top. Some of those people actually play in casinos for decades. You can tell the people that really play year after year. They tend to respect the others that have been at it for decades and have evolved over time. Most give up on mechanical rule based systems. They move past the magical beliefs period. They start to see randomness as a friend that can help you instead of as an enemy out to get you.

    I managed to get most of Reading Randomness done before the thread was used as a dumping ground for interruptions. So I'm proud of it. The primary work is done. I shared my basic idea. I introduced people to the software that I used with the first student. Some people who never tried this before tried it. Other people that are not here have done exceedingly well with it. It's done. Nothing more needs to be added to it. I got the job done.

    Did you get the job done? I didn't go back to see if you completed the work. My only interest is in seeing what stage a person is at in the growth of their gambling experience. People will tell you if you read what they say and listen to what they are trying to suggest. They will eventually tell you their motives for posting if you try to read them. It's a gambling forum. It's not church.
     
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    Yes thanks job done, I actually genuinely enjoyed your posts ( as per numerous likes posted) before you went sideways, still do , as I said nothing personal , as I have a perversely wicked sense of humour and I really enjoy running my mouth off and polite society with its political correctness rarely lets you to cut loose as per my I’m no angel post above. So not personal
    Yes agreed with you last post, no it’s not a kumbyar tongue your shitter statement. I too am interested in helping people past the basic degenerate gambling belief many have, as there are many paths to make money at a casino and I’m not talking ap here as in my opinion thats boarder line crime ( my opinion only )
    You call it random reading, many years ago I worked on something I termed chaos theory, you had a better name for it as usual, but I just had c..t .. written on the front of journals and would cop a ribbing from people about it , the title.

    No sims , no program just long hand slog. So the mental picture I have can be compared to a degree from what I’ve read of yours this forum , but you are on another level there that I didn’t get to with mine. As I play in skippy town casino they are 110% anal about devices at the table so any and all machinations had to be long hand , pen and paper. If and it’s a big if I played online I would be inclined to be tech dependant as I can see the advantage, be advised this is prior to the introduction of the RNG stadium set up in Sydney, even then when stadium introduced 5/6 years ago they did police the no phone, no tablet at the screen etc. Now it’s ok as they casino know you cannot cheat the RNG , but table no way can use a device.
    As I play only b & m I have to play by their rules and formulate my approach to make + unit profits etc within those guidelines, it’s not about what’s right or wrong but how you get it done no excuses, no gamble fallacy, bias that bias this , sim data versus real shoe data all irrelevant if what you have cannot be used against any and all situations, meaning b & m or online, stadium RNG or stadium live dealer. I’m amazed at how people blame the shuffle machine as being programmed to defeat the players, how pre boxed 8 deck are rigged, how roulette wheels are rigged etc . Yes sometimes somewhere maybe but all the time every where every casino, no hard to believe ——-imho——.
    Those that believe everything is rigged and continue to play are just degens as , as in my opinion so are slot players, really you lose money for fun ,that’s fun ? Faktards
    As per your comments re virtual bets had merit but not for what I had done as it was a post about a past activity from February to August .., it was already a result. I, to be honest did test the virtual theory many years ago, in both casinos and share markets, and do recommend it to new players, or people testing new methods etc. Mainly as a confidence thing for them . And a money saver to boot . No bankroll = no profit opportunity.
    For my present activity I don’t need the virtual bet system, I may take a no bet action that has a no decision attached to it to keep my head empty so to speak of any misleading thoughts as to what is unfolding in front of me at the screen. I can and do turn a losing bet strategy into a winning bet strategy as I had posted this here before on this forum so I won’t reiterate now.
    Oops long winded and off track.
    Im grateful for the tips and information I have gathered from yourself and others here , and I hope I’ve been able to help a few here also. If not, no problem today , but the information is still there and available on the interverse in an internet town near you .
    Cheers
     
  12. gizmotron

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    I only play B&M and I use pen and 3x5 lined index cards that look just like my charts. It just fits with the ten columns. No computers, all in the head. I actually seldom use the virtual bets. I just bet smaller during down swings. Good post.
     
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    OK, completed 51 games because the first game was a break even that posted before I was done. So I did 51 games, one break even, one lost about 600, and two lost 3,000 each. I ended up with 14,326.

    The win to loss ratio became 2.17 to 1. That's just slightly better than my typical result of 2 to 1. This is how Reading Randomness works. I'm not the only one doing 2 to 1 where 1 to 1 is supposed to be impossible according the the math.


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    Have you still got access to that random video to stock market you wrote about in quoted post? If not no problem. Cheers
     

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    I will try and work out how to send a photo here this site, and will post a photo of my day work book at the stadium, looks like gobbly goop childs scribbling pad , but I read it like a classic.
    Cheers
     
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    Hi Gizmo,
    would you say the 50 games you played recently at RS are totally independent from one to the other ?
    If not which "info" do you transfer between single games ?

    wobbly wheelers and wannabemaths: I can compete with the math and physics. There is no need to discuss the word "info" with primary school knowledge here.
    Thanks
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    None. I start with a new 7 "no bet" spins typically. Then just start looking for anything that might be continuing. I also play off of premonitions very early on in a game for one or two spins. For some strange reason I can get one of these right about once every 20 or 30 games. But I'm lousy at precognition. I only get an impression around the start of a session. As you can see I hardly use the virtual bet. I know I should. I do try to bet bigger when I'm winning. That's all of it. As you can see I do get killed once in a while.

    Thanks,

    Mark
     
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    Here it is:



    BTW, it should be pointed out that the casinos actually make from 18% to 22% on average from their table games. This is proved by their own corporate yearly earnings reports. This is because of emotional mistakes made by gamblers.
     
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    Thanks, was quite funny how the perpetuation of the collective consciousness trend line is still in vogue, a good hook for newbies to “trade the trend is your friend “ when in the meantime the market makers sets the spread at a point above the trend line, easy money, thanks good for thinking about as usual. Thanks
     
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    I heard it like this: "The trend is your friend, until the end when it bends."
     

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