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Baccarat What's your bet-selection method and money management?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Jon Wick, Sep 11, 2020.

  1. Jon Wick

    Jon Wick Member

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    Interested to know what different methods of bet placement and bankroll management is used among the various players here.
     
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    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Read I own it thread it’s brilliant.
     
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  3. Garfield

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    There are many bs and mm....but each to his own...nothing is one fit for all...imho

    For me, I use cashew as bs, and Guiness as my mm...
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Jon Wick,



    What is your bet selection and MM ?



    Thanks.
     
  5. Jon Wick

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    The bet selection I'm using is a bet selection system by clf7
    Nathan,

    I'm using "Free Baccarat Method" by clf7. I've challenged myself to make 10%/day with a starting bankroll of $100 and I'm currently at about 10k. Being a Degen gambler it's hard to stop after being up 10% because you make it so fast. But as my bankroll grew past 1k it was easy to stick to the plan.
     
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  6. Joey Torres

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    Hi Jon,

    Very interesting. What betting progressions are you using?

    Thanks
     
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  7. AndyCasinoK

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    For clf7 method

    link here : https://www.rouletteforum .cc/index.php?topic=26669.msg235936#msg235936
     

  8. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Can u kindly elaborate about " Free Baccarat method" by clf7, & its availability, thanks
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Jon Wick


    Thanks for your reply.




    ND
     
  10. Jon Wick

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    Joey,

    I'm using a 5 step negative martingale money management system. I know a lot of people say martingale is a losing proposition. But for me, its been working.
     
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  11. Ordinary_people

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    Each progression have plus and minus. 5 step martingale can good if dont lose 5 in a row.

    I ever tried this progression in the past. If i may know :
    1. Normal martingale or grand martingale ?
    2. How many target unit per day ? If i am not wrong in the above post your target is 10% from your bankroll. Your bankroll is 10k. So the target is 100. That is 1 unit, 5 unit, or 10 unit ?
    3. If bust, that day is done ?

    Thanks
     
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  12. Garfield

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    Jon, why not apply positive progression too?
     
  13. Ordinary_people

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    Sorry for point 2 i wrong calculate. I mean your target is 1K if 10% from 10k

    Thanks
     
  14. Jon Wick

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    Ordinary,
    1. I use a normal martingale.
    2. Whatever my current bankroll is, my goal is to win 10%. As far as my units I'm using it's a little complicated. I will try my best to explain and I hope it makes sense. My units is $100. I have a 3 buy-in rule with whatever my current bankroll is.100+200+400+800+1600=3100 enough to cover 3 buy-ins with 10k.
    3. Yes if I bust before my target I'm done for the day.
     
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  15. Ordinary_people

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    My conclusion from your example whole bankroll is 100 unit.

    Your session bankroll per day is 31 unit. Your target per day is 10% from whole bankroll which is 10 unit.

    Am i right ? Do you still use this ?

    Btw can't wait john wick 4 bro ;)
     
  16. Jon Wick

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    Yes you are correct. I still use this method and been consistent making 500-2000 per week. Don't get me wrong, I've lost all 5 steps but with a hit and run mentally you will come out ahead much more than losing all 5 steps. I'm living proof it can be done.
     
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  17. Zhang Wei

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    Never heard of cashew bs and guiness mm.
    Please elaborate.

    My bs is modified NOR.
    My mm is negative progression + flat bet.
     
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  18. Joey Torres

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    Hi Zhang Wei,

    Can you clarify your bs modified NOR?
    How many LIAR did you experience using this bs?

    Thanks
     
  19. Zhang Wei

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    Neutral
    Opposite
    Repeat
    + modified play when it is none of the above.

    From the most recent 1000 shoes,
    average LIAR is 5.6
    longest LIAR is 8.
     
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  20. Jimske

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    I understand but don't use NOR. I do concur that 5 LIAR is a good average for losses per shoe OR every 75 hands or so. This is about the same as what I've seen using various bet selections.
     

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