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Trends happen in the short-term. A trend can be anything you want it to be as long as it tends to repeat. It could be as simple as two singletons or one repeat. It can be as complicated as three different runs and then later in the shoe seeing the same different runs beginning to appear. (BBBppB then 7 hands later seeing the same. So bet B after BBBpp). Doesn't really matter. Of course the simpler trends are easier to identify and bet.

One thing is clear in my opinion. Never bet against a long run or long chop or long pattern to not continue. The reason is if you bet against and lose your in the same situation as you were before looking for the long chop or the long run to end and be tempted to keep going betting more and more only to lose everything.. But if you bet to continue the long chop or long run then you only lose one bet and it's finished. At the same time you may get lucky and see that long trend or pattern repeat again again again. It can be 2222 or one two 1 2 1 2. It can be anything.

So that's your Trend selection. The rest is Money Management as LlY points out.

J

 

I see. I know all the sub chart. So what you do when collide each other ?

Example if we see big road must bet B. When see big eye must bet P. This can be 1 vs 1 trend or 2 vs 1, 3 vs 1, 2 vs 2.

Sometimes confuse must bet which trend to follow. If the 3 or 4 syncronized thats not the problem. So almost the time i just use main road if wanna see past result.

Sometimes maybe looks funny. I bet with using 1 set card blackjack. If red then bet banker. If black then bet player. Sometimes works. Sometimes dont. Lol

 

Same question like i ask Lungyeh. Can you share your experience from analyze all the 4 chart trend ? If collide each other.

Thanks

 

I really don't have an issue with the money management as proposed by LY. I think we can all agree that we're either trying to exploit a situation where we're winning or recoup from a situation where we are losing.. There is a scale between aggressive and conservative. Each to his own but my preferred method is conservative. If I'm losing I tried to recoup little by little. I may begin by increasing my bed by 20 or 30% and if that chips away a little bit I can even reduce further and go back to my normal bet amount. If losses continue it's academic that I'm going to have to increase my bet a little bit more at some point in order to recoup. It could be the next shoe or even next session. But I'm always going to be looking to get to a point where it's easier for me to get back to even or profit so I can reduce my bet amount as I begin to reduce my losses.

For me it's the same with winning. Because I have an idea of how many units I generally can win in a shoe. I tend to leave with some kind of profit on a good shoe if it starts to deteriorate and I see that I just lost two more in a row and I'm at or near my general high limit of wins in a shoe. I'll just quit.

Adhering to all that the only thing that can make me lose is the Chimp! I'm pretty sure we've all been there. Creating good habits through specific structure is, in my opinion, the way to harness that animal.

J

 

Because patterns exist in the short term. Patterns are just part of randomness.

 

I suppose with the billions of possibilities of combinations in just one shoe, it’s difficult to be specific. As to which sub-chart to use, it also depends on prior results which may show which is more dominant. Whichever you choose, if it wins, it just means you are NOT in the Shar Chi phase.

If it contradicts too much, just skip the bet bro. The main chart should guide all your trend bets. The sub charts are supplementary to raise caution.

I did not say this earlier but this is so important. If there are too many contradictory readings and patterns to cause some confusion, just SKIP THE BET. You dont have to make a bet every single hand. Why take on a headache? The next bet is 2 minutes away!! Keep the peace. Ok brader?

 

And if all sub charts and main road charts all point to one result, I tend to skip the hand or bet less unless it is part of an overall long dragon pattern (whether repeats or alternates).

 

Lungyeh, thanks for taking the time to answer all readers’ questions. But I feel like you have more valuable/informative posts to share with us. For ex, you’ve shared a Bet Sequence for the Hot Phase (1 0.5 1 ...), how about your MM for Neutral or Shar Chi Phase?
Would you also have bet sequences for them too, or just treading water lightly (10% like u said for Shar Chi) until you’re engaging in a Hot Phase again? Thanks

 

Nice advice. Sometimes i bet when 2 vs 1.

I choose the 2 pattern in 2 chart. But mostly just look the main road.

And sometimes if i dicipline. When have 2 lose streak, wait till have virtual win. Then continue bet.

I dont know if i can do it like you do. Stop the moment if lose 3 from the last 4 bet although i think thats a good advice too.

Thanks Lungyeh

 

I see. Hmm if i maybe feel more confident all chart give 1 result. Maybe just suggestion although my bet just little.

So far i pay attention to scoreboard mostly just main road. Sometimes not pay attention even once. Just stick with randomness like choose with using 1 set card blackjack or etc, but this just few times

 

The boundaries that separates the different phases are unfortunately not as clear cut as we wish them to be. That we can build a Mexican wall.

We decide what we feel is the Hot Phase depending on our interpretation of the shoe as it presents itself before us. Importantly, we decide on our first bet of the HPB. If we win, we can be hopeful that it is the start of the Hot Phase. The second bet that follows is 0.5 HPB. If we lose, it tells us maybe the HP is not yet upon us. We could be in the NP or maybe worse, the Shar Chi Phase. It tells us to be cautious. If we win, we embark on our journey of a potential Hot Phase. If we continue to win, we follow the suggested betting amounts or variations thereof.

When the play unfolding before you is not in sync with your preferred pattern of play, it probably is a Neutral or Shar Chi Phase, bet the UB if you need to validate a potential shift to the Hot Phase. No need to make any bets and waste your ‘bullets’ just for the sake of betting. This is important. Like I said earlier, one don’t appreciate the value of water until the well runs dry. Always always respect money. Or the Chimp will teach you. Hahaha. (I dont know how to use emojis here. All that I used in the previous posts dont appear)

 

OP, stopping when losing 3 out of the last 4 bets is very important and to me, non negotiable. You only have to stop for 30-60 minutes. On resumption, if you lose the first bet, stop another 30-60 minutes or go home then.

Losing 3 out of 4 bets is losing 75% of your bet selection. Doesn’t that tell you something? I think more importantly if you have this RULE ( it becomes a rule of baccarat that cannot be changed and must be followed so that the Chimp dont appear) then you become more aware and will force you to do not simply bet.

Together with the suggested bet amounts when so confronted it is a cornerstone of LOSS MANAGEMENT in our MM system.

I mentioned earlier about the guy who lost $400,000 is 6 hands. When his usual bet amount was $4,000. Can you imagine having to win 100 times in future just to recover? What would the Chimp do? Sit quietly and watch your attempts or run wild and create further havoc? Thats the problem with negative Martingale in recovering losses. Even for a simple 1,2,4,8,16,32 negative progression. People focus on winning the 6th bet to win 1 miserable unit! But realise that if you lose the 6th bet, you lose a total of 63 units! Wth!

I truly believe that winning a few units is very common and usual at aa point in your casino visit. Its your management of the losing phase that determines whether you walk out a winner. Of course there will be difficult days just like in work or in business. But in baccarat you can choose to stop anytime and walk out. The MM espoused here helps you determine when you must minimise the damage and live to fight another day.

 

From my own experience I have decided on a different rule. I'm playing on trends and patterns that are executing perfectly. Once the first loss occurs the perfection is gone. I read it that the trend is breaking down. It might come back so I watch for that, but it is clearly a change. So I don't place any more bets on it unless it is part of the larger trend singles on the weak side.

I'm playing the equivalence of 6 individual hands from six independent shoes all simultaneously. I know that working trends and ending trends exist at the same time. The primary issue for me is maintaining peace, the absence of fear. Scared money leads to bad tactics.

I know I can just sit there and wait for a good patch of trends. It might take 10 to 20 minutes, that's all. I only get up and leave for a while or for the rest of the day if I'm tired for any reason. It could be a long recovery session or a long drive.

I can relate to the chimp taking over. I understand getting very low in my session bankroll. That breads fear and a lack of peace. I know from experience that there are perfect swarms of the first bet against a continuing trend that end up trying to bring in fear. I also know that I can wait out cold spots at the minimum table bottom limit. My typical play is a $5 bet on any one of the outside table layout bets like Red or Black. If you bet these blindly all day you will more than likely break close to even. So they are the equivalence of a no bet while keeping the dealer happy. My big bet is from $90 to $100 on any first attempt bet on a working trend.

I know if a trend is working because when I make a minimum throw away bet on Red or Black I also make a trend bet selection in my mind that is unfunded. I keep this stream of bet selections going so that it will show me when I'm no longer in a phase of back to back first-try losses. These first try losses are the only way that I can get 3 out of 4 losses. It must come from a swarm. You could call it a losing streak or the "Shar Chi Phase." But after the first loss I'm back in the holding pattern of minimum bets on Red or Black. I call this tactic virtual betting. Many players use virtual bets. It's not an original idea. This has the tendency to minimize the power of the Chimp and to stay at peace for me.

So I get to place a bet selection on every spin while searching all 6 groupings for a swarm of first-try wins. That's the profound secret to Reading Randomness. There are swarms of first-try losses and wonderfully swarms of first-try wins. This swarm of wins is just another figure formation configuration of trends in the "Hot Phase."

There is a danger of staying on the "Hot Phase" too long. My stop funding the bets trick is to get off that trend as soon as it does not continue. So that explains why I can only get killed off in a session with a swarm of first-attempt funded bets.

I wonder if this concept of "a swarm" is too difficult to understand or to relate to? Some people at the other forum think its magical gobbledygook meant to impress the gullible and to sound like I'm saying something when it means nothing at all. At least that is what they are saying it is. I don't want to just assume that everyone knows what a swarm of losses means. I tend to start the jokes when people appear to actually not understand what I consider basic ideas. Some times it just to get a rise out of me. My only thing is at what point to you give up on some people when you try to communicate with them. They leave people to die near the top of Mt Everest because if you attempt to carry them down you will die yourself. I tend to want to let people die at the top of the world for not understanding that a swarm of things is a very basic concept. Perhaps it is not. I show examples of it in graphs even. So I go off on the mathZombies, the trolls, and the never ending people that will not allow themselves to be helped in understand simple concepts.

 

Imho your first attempt bet might work and not... it's always like that....you could have 5 lost bet in 5 first attempt no matter how long you paused between them with your virtual betting...

It's not something bad tbh... Just to let other realize that losing is always side to side with winning...

That's why having full control of your mind is important....after let's say an hour waiting just betting virtually, one mind could exhaust and start saying, "This is silly, let's place a real bet, make money and go home asap...."

You could take a punch in your face when winning big, who cares? But walking home empty handed and lost your buy-in/BR, that's a different stories...


On the way home you'll regret so many things, and could bring the chimp back home...

Like they said, what happened in Vegas (casino), stayed there.... don't be a double moron by losing your money and get angry to your family/friends etc etc

 

That's all about letting the Chimp loose. I could probably point out that I never have to wait more than two or three spins before a nice trend forms up. Three spins at Roulette with 12 sets making up 6 unique groupings of Even Chance bets is the equivalence of 18 hands of Baccarat, Craps, or Blackjack in a row. At two minutes per hand that is more than half an hour. If I was forced to wait 6 spins that would be 12 minutes verses a single data stream's hour+. I can see that. There are people on here that love to wait as many as 50 spins while hunting the single hottest number. That's just too boring for me. Most of my session have no virtual bets in them. In other words there seems to always be a working trend or pattern. That is because I have trained myself to see way more trends or patterns than most others. So waiting is not really an issue.

 

An excellent recommendation is L-Y HPB series betting method .


Play at your own risk.



ND

 

Nathan Detroit would never consent to a 100 % win goal relative to the bankroll.


20 % is attainable

10% is intelligent

5 % is super intelligent.




Play at your own risk.

 

ND, I suppose your approach will increase the odds of walking away a winner considerably. To put matters in perspective, perhaps in this case, we have to dwell into the psychological profile of the gamer and the bankrolls available to him. Like ND rightly said in a previous post, to have adequate bankroll. So if one goes with say 100,000 and making 1,000 or going with 10,000. Making 10% is 1000 and rightly enough for most people. If one goes with 1000, making 10% is 100 and may not cover expenses to get to the casino.

In the rightest sense, if we treat baccarat as a business, the objective is to make money. If one enjoys himself in the process, well and good. But the main objective, as also in business, is to make money. So making 10%, 20% is more attainable.

I hasten to add that if you have a small bankroll base, aiming for a higher percentage until you build up a bigger capital base may then reduce your risk exposure.

ND, may I ask:-

1) do you risk 100% of your session bankroll for each visit?

2) do you stop on 10% or 20% or you ride your wins?

There is really no absolute right and wrong approach. Just what is right for one personally.

But to me, the loss management is the over-riding factor whether you want to win 10%, 20% or 70% or 100%.

 

Imho the winning chance ia still the same whether you aim for 10% or 100%... It probably would affect the buy in, how many chance you have...

Bigger unit mean fewer attempts, vice versa...

 

Garfield,



It is not only ONE session. We are bringing identical bankrolls to win 2 out of 3 sessions .


We are not married to one casino game during a visit.



ND