Roulette Basics - that no one wants to hear

Of course you can, and it's not guessing. I see your going to bring up one calculation mistake I made and then use that to say I don't know what I'm talking about lol. Alright then fair enough... have at it.
I can predict present and future spins above 1:35 - if you know math then you can as well.
Cheers.

 

You mean those Taj wheels ? lol. I agree.
That place is a ghost town - the last thing they are thinking about is maintenance.
I don't need a bias wheel though, just need the rules of math to stay the same - and that's not changing.
Not that I wouldn't mind finding one to use, don't get me wrong.
In the end though we'll be playing the same numbers though and both winning.

 

"In the end though we'll be playing the same numbers though and both winning" >> Now this is the SAME subject I have brought up many times in the past, even started a couple threads on the matter. I of course feel that AP (cough) is a joke BUT lets say I'm wrong (it can happen).

If my "hot" numbers just so happen to also be part of the bias (cough) numbers the AP goofs are betting, who really cares WHY I am winning? Winning is winning, what difference does it make? Do you get paid 33:1 cause you are not an AP Jedi? (lol) Nope, we *ALL* get it at 35:1. Sorry Charlie.

Ken

 

I suspect you guys mistakenly believe that if a wheel is biased that you'll quickly spot the biased numbers because you think they'll be the numbers that are "hot". If so, you are mistaken. Biased numbers are not always the hottest numbers during every set of 100, 300, or even the last 1000 spins.

It's also possible to be on one or two biased numbers and one random number but have the random number completely wipe out your win. There's quite a bit more to it than what you may think.

No, I'm not referring to the Taj, but you might find something there. In the past we did well at the Taj. Back in 2006/2007, long before they became a ghost town they'd let us go up to 1k to the number and block the 00 from hitting. Trump Plaza was the same way. In the end, when they closed that place the casino had gnats/bugs and smelled.

 

Hang on, I'm not really speaking for Turbo, mostly myself. I'm not even real sure which method Turbo is talking about?

I'm simply saying, if we have five people playing the SAME numbers but all for DIFFERENT reasons, do we not all get paid the same? Of course we do. I have people that follow my bets (I wanna slice their throats, joking) but what can I do? They ALSO get a nice 35:1 payout. Did they EARN it? Nope, I did all the work at home prior.

Ken

 

I agree with Snowman. If it was easy as "just bet the numbers that are hitting the most" then the casinos would have gone out of business years ago. Betting hot numbers is as old as the game itself and is really just the other arm of the gambler's fallacy (the first being "maturity of chances").

Turbo, you were dead certain years ago that the "solution" was betting cold numbers + a progression; now you seem just as sure that the way to go is in the opposite direction. Are you open to the possibility that you might still be wrong?

 

By the way, although I fully agree that the "methods" you covered in your first post are useless from the point of view of gaining any advantage, I don't see how the math can "show the way". The math says the game has a negative expectation (in the absence of any form of advantage play), so how can it also point to consistent winning? There cannot be two proofs one of which contradicts the other.

 

A couple issues.

I dont know if Turbo has used the term "hot numbers". Maybe he did, I dont read every post. I do use that term.

However, HOT is very vague in terms of a method. I play a couple methods that revolve around hot numbers but believe me, its MUCH MUCH more than.....Hey, the 23 hit three times in the last 10 spins, LETS LOAD UP BOYS!!! (lol)

My method(s) has rules that would make your head spin and question God himself. ALL compliments of HUNDREDS OF HOURS, trial & error.

Also Rota, as usual, ANOTHER poster from the past now under a DIFFERENT user name??

I just love that...or...simply a viewer from the past? (most likely not)

Ken

 

Pay attention Jboy, you may learn something.

Math is a useful tool. Using it to calculate the standard deviations above/below the norm, and to calculate chi square can be important.

Math helps us determine which numbers are likely random goats and which ones are likely worth playing.

 

Listen up Cgirl, you may prove something.

Can you PROVE you do well with AP (cough)? What is that proof?

Ken

 

Jboy,

Yes, actually I could, but I won't.

 

(ROFL)....thats great, always the EASY way out for you Farnsworth. I'm not asking for your AP (cough) techniques, only asking for the PROOF that YOU kick a** with your AP (cough) insight? Nothing? Figures.

Ken

 

Jboy,

I'll tell you what. You go first, and then I'll respond.

How much do you suppose you've won using your system/method/stratagy? Do you consider yourself a lifetime winner?

 

Its cute how you "trap" me into answering BUT YET afterwards, you still will not.

I'll do it anyways to show I'm the bigger man (oops, post a funny pic now).......Lifetime winner? Same definitions for EVERYONE, yourself included Caleb. We are counting that very FIRST DAY playing!!! Lifetime for me? No. Over the last 5 years?

Yes. (trial & error, its no coincidence) I dont play systems but I do play methods.

So lets use the last 5 years as a guide. (for the both of us). You cant post your amount and NEITHER can I without the proof, correct? Where would the PROOF come from? Also, I did not originally ask you for your dollar amounts. I asked you for the PROOF that you do very well with this game (misdirection yet again).

Thats what he does and not very good I might add. He knows he is screwed on subject "A" so he tries to slide on over to a different subject ("B") in hopes that nobody will notice. Old school crap.

Thing about this board, you can not edit after a few minutes. So, you did post, you would respond. Waiting...

Ken

 

I'm not asking for proof, since you won't be able to provide it. How much do you believe that have you won in the past five years?

 

Hmmm, is there a negative to answering that? (lol) Aside from, you won't answer regardless, I'm not even counting that part. My stats are pretty organized. All notebooks, I'm also old school, just like you. Can we somehow do percents instead of dollar amount? I have a feeling you'll go into ATTACK MODE (no, not you)....and/or other negative situations that may arise. (hint)

Ken

 

"Percent"???

 

I'm trying to come up with a way of answering without giving a dollar amount. How are you doing, what idea did you come up with for your posting? We both know you won't answer with a dollar amount.

.....and both of us (that includes you BTW) can not prove it. I can say 2K (no proof) or I can say 100K (no proof).

Yourself?

Ken

 

What would you like to hear?

 

If Ken was really winning any money consistently from that one Indian casino he goes to in Milwaukee, he'd have been kicked out by now and added to OSN in a heartbeat.