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Baccarat The worlds 1st totally unbeatable unbreakable baccarat and roulette system

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by BPBS, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Attached is a snippet of the pdf you sent me, Chris. It cannot win. Your bet selection is no better than random bets in my testing. No progression will improve results if you cannot win at a significantly higher rate than random. Your system cannot win. Deep down, I think you know this.
     

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  2. Garfield

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    Well I don't think many could achieve more winning bets than the losing ones...if so Marty will never exist...

    2 wins vs 3 losses is still could make you a winner.....something like LLLWW...even LLLLWW still could make you ahead depends on the bet...

    IMHO...
     
  3. Xytras

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    Casinos been built on Marti users. So there goes your theory!

    If people have learned to accept small losses per a session rather than to chase every unit to a bitter end, most of gamblers would do much better overall.

    In your example of LLLWW even a simple Oscar grind would get back to the equilibrium rather than to risk 15 units to win 1
     
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  4. Garfield

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    Right Xytras....spot on! That's why it's interesting to see how marty fans could survive and ahead...

    The ironic part is....most marty user dare to bet big when losing, but not when winning....

    I guess the routine is imprinted to their mind....they know they'll lose so they're busy preparing for it while pass the opportunity to maximize the profit...
     
  5. milkdog

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    Hi! I am also new to this forum
    Like gambling
    Also engaged in this industry
    Baccarat is indeed a fun game
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Welcome to the forums. Baccarat is an elegant game when played in an upscale casino.


    A fun game is Sic Bo.
     
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  7. bogdanm

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    I`ve got to ask what is the point for this thread?
     
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    The point is you read it.
     
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  9. jbs

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    Baccarat is a suckers game and is no different if played in an upscale casino or the garage of some hood rat.
     
  10. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Not everyone plays a game in a pissoir like jibs does.
     
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  11. Craps

    Craps Well-Known Member

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    Ok fellow members and posters. Please stop bashing BPBS. He is not a scammer. He is just an opportunist. The way I see it is he overstated his play method and anything anyone sells concerning Baccarat approaches is not worth more than $19.95. I faulted him for preying on desperate players willing to try anything. It would be better for him to say something like a play method that is user friendly with a unique design. Test it out accordingly first before you put in real money. That way you can ensure smoothness and mistake free execution. He also need to put in a disclaimer stating that results may vary and you could lose. Buy it for the design.

    As for all the people who don't understand, I take this opportunity to explain the best I could. Why is Baccarat NOT played with bettors being dealt individual hands against a house hand? Why are you allowed to bet either side? Why do Banker have a slight edge over Player and a lower payout ratio for winning on Bank? A lot of people learned and understand the ODDS but don't think deep enough or don't pay attention or don't care. I guarantee you will see the game differently if you pay more attention.

    If an approach is so bad and deemed to fail, all you have to do is bet against it. You are allowed to do that completely.Commenting on the times when something fails or working be it bet selection or MM simply demonstrate short understanding. Anything you do in Baccarat is a double edge sword. The only thing you need to do is play the method that you are most comfortable with. The reason is simple. THE ODDS NEVER CHANGE. 50/50 with House Edge. THe person who buys in his entire bankroll and put it all on one bet is no better or worse than the person who sits for an hour before making a unit bet. The only argument one can make is the FALLACY part of the game. Fallacies are fallacies and they too are subjected to the ODDS of the game.

    The only thing a bettor needs to worry about is the HUMAN FACTOR side of things. if you use a method that can get you on tilt you better change your method to a more mechanical one. The one where you use charting , triggers and a fixed MM. This is where the big debate begins. People believe they can acquire the skill to GAIN probability with win frequencies OR more accuracy on bet amounts. If you employ a method where you try harder when losing more than when winning, you are in trouble.Although I already said nothing is right or wrong but make sure one very important aspect which is when you try harder after you lost, you are basically chasing your losses and when you looked at this situation from the casino side, you are trying to lose more OR the casino is chasing it's winnings on you. If you are successful, it simply means the casino have a FREE shot at more money. You are not winning. You are breaking even. As soon as you have your money back, you resort back to your normal unit bet. This is why the House wins NOT because of House Edge alone. This is where you can win a few days and gave everything back in one day.

    Will touch on why playing with a progression is not all that bad as most people think. I post this view of mine here because what BPBS is trying to sell does involved a progression and was heavily criticized.
     
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  12. Craps

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    Now the progression part. What the house has is the House Edge and that is good enough to hold WHAT? 15% to 25% of the drop. Are you kidding me? isn't 1+% the HOUSE EDGE and why those high % hold?. It is because of HUMAN FACTOR which breaks down to discipline, patience and control which everybody understands but could not master. One good place to start is HAVE YOU COMPLETELY utilized what is known as the Gamblers' Edge?
    Options on:
    Where to play
    What to play
    When to play
    Bet amounts
    Altering the probability
    If you Flat Bet, you would have left out 2 options which is Bet amounts and Altering the probability. You are simply relying on positive bet frequencies. In other words it's quantity and not quality. If you believe in fallacies which everybody uses to make a decision, having more stretch for your bankroll by flat betting would require you to forgo probability. By saying you have more probability with superior bet selection capability in winning a bet totally disregard Math and only embraces fallacies. Nothing wrong with that. It's just you gave yourself less options.

    Using a progression is like getting mulligans when you play golf. If you use an example 5 step Marty, you essentially have 5 mulligans to get your shot right. Most likely you are going to do it. Anyway, you have to gave up what I called TRUE wins. Therefore playing with Martingale is Using a series bankroll to win a fractional unit of the said bankroll. Its incomplete until you win enough units to cover the bust of one series. YOU ARE LOOKING FOR RESIDUAL UNITS AFTER DEDUCTING THE BUST AMOUNT. These residual units can be substantial if you employ all the other options from the gamblers's edge. Why do people kept commenting on win a little and lose a bundle is because they refuse to look at progression as a long term thing. When you use flat bet, isn't losing a bet means giving back your previous single bet win? with Martingale you are creating probability which is an option from the gamblers edge to irk out a fractional win on a difficult day. Martingale only losses on a VERY bad day whereas flat betting only wins on an average day and above. A progression is a MM and not a system. It is changing the payout ratio in exchange for more probability. System sellers were able to impress people with their creations by using a progression. Its actually the progression and not the bet selection that is producing the units because of probability in true Math form.

    When using progression, one has to think of a land mine. if you survey first and then tip toe slowly, you most likely able to avoid getting hurt. On the other hand if you do a KAMIKAZE style by steamrolling across the field, you most likely to get hurt. Example: Keep betting every hand P using 5 Martingale. You will lose 31 units when 5 B comes. Can you say this is win a little and lose a lot. On the surface , YES but the bottom line is you can ONLY make that statement IF you lose on the VERY first series. If we eliminate the extremes, you should win enough fractional units to cover one loss which will make the Martingale same as Flat Betting. If you are a very conservative player, you can do a lot of charting and use triggers as entry points and then Martingale Hit & Run to just win a fractional unit. With this approach, you have already used ALL of the gamblers edge. instead of going head to head battle with the casino,now you are playing like a coward. A terrorist style of attack. If you want , you can even do what I call MANUFACTURED PROBABILITY. How? Next time if only more people shows interest.
     
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  13. Craps

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    One important difference between Martingale and chasing your losses going on tilt.
    Martingale DOES NOT START WITH A LOSING SESSION but going on tilt does.
    Martingale is just a MM. You predetermined your bets and you get the probability. Going on tilt chasing your losses do not have probability. Its hand by hand in the midst of a bad run.
    It does not have to be losses in a row. A series of losses with single wins in between is also a losing streak but in this situation Martingale survives.
     
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