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Baccarat Selective betting in baccarat (fathead)

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Sextan, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. Sextan

    Sextan New Member

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    Hi fathead,

    Remember u mentioned if u got the time to run the test using ur results for me?

    U managed to reduce the edge slightly lower to - 0.56% thru a selective betting.

    I provided another method, could have better edge due to the selective betting.

    The rules,

    1. bet only on P, not every time.
    2. Only bet P when the 1st B appear.
    3. Flat bet.
    4. After a bet, stop betting whether won or lost. Look out for the next single 1st B to appear.

    5. The average will be 25% betting, 25 times out of 100 hands.
    6. The rate should be very very close to 50-50, and my live data is showing +ev.

    For example, BPPPBBPBPBP.

    For the above, total of 11 hands, only bet on 2nd, 6th, 9th and 11 hands. 4 bets overall. And the results are 3 wins 1 loss.


    Will you, or anybody willing to do the test on live data for all to witness?

    Thanks.

    Regards
    Sextan
     
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  2. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    Interesting method. With the method I use it’s even more restrictive but I would have won two bets and lost zero.
     
  3. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, I hope u won't mind sharing ur method, I can so some online testing & update with results
     
  4. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    I’ll try and write something up soon. It’s very slow though I will tell you and not all pit bosses will allow it.
     
  5. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, I really appreciate ur cooperation, Waiting BTW I will be testing online & not B&M
     
  6. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Loses -774 units on my data. See attached chart.

    Sextan PB bet P.png
     
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2021
  7. Sextan

    Sextan New Member

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    Hi fathead,

    Thanks so much for working it out. Appreciate your help.

    Thou the results are very bad even compared against the standard house edge.

    Now, all of us can only depends on cps10 methods.

    Thanks.
     

  8. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    No problem. It is very hard to do better than the house edge over the whole database flat betting.
     
  9. Craps

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    Does that mean we can do the opposite and win?
     
  10. Sextan

    Sextan New Member

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    My bet selection is, bet 1x P, when 1st B appear. My 2 x data set are good to breakeven, or even profit. But fathead data stated otherwise.

    If we do the opposite, then it's bet on B after 1st B appear..

    Will win 774 more, but out of 48000+ bet.... The 5% or any other type of Banker commission will eat into the 774 wins, and cause a lose in the end..
     
  11. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Does yer data set contain only legit, live dealt shoe, hey hey?
     
  12. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Yes, live shoes. I have some simulated shoes also but they behave strangely sometimes, i don't trust them.
     
  13. Sextan

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    Hi fathead,

    Sorry, my bad. Did u input any Tie in ur testing?

    During actual play, Tie is ignored.

    But during my data testing, I removed all ties data to avoid computing errors like BTP resulting in a loss instead of a win.
     
  14. Sextan

    Sextan New Member

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    The method is actually calculating the ratio of single Bs vs multiple Bs.

    Statistics I studied show that single Bs is about 25%,while multiple Bs should be less than 25%,regardless of the length of B.
     

  15. Ravinderchawla

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    Hi, Waiting for ur reply
     
  16. Kalki Teja

    Kalki Teja New Member

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    We can try 2nd banker or opposite depending on the shoe, if player is favourite then we can bet player after 1st banker, else 2nd banker. Results were good since a month.

    I target 1-2 units per shoe.
     

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