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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Lungyeh, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Not true at all. I presented Reading Randomness and disclosed everything. It's not for the dreamers, magical thinkers, and the mechanical system flunkies. You are not ready for it while you have your pet progression. You need to understand that there are best ways to lose. In your case just about everything else is a better way.

    Why do we do this every year?
     
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  2. Lungyeh

    Lungyeh Well-Known Member

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    People talk about Baccarat as a negative expectancy game and therefore gamers are bound to lose.

    Can anybody tell me of examples of positive expectancy games? Anything that is positive expectancy means sure win right? So any EEDIYOT will pile on the cash for such games and walk away a sure winner until the loser close shop and there would be no more positive expectancy games.

    So wake up and dont regurgitate the same shite. Yes, baccarat is negative expectancy and only slightly so. To pay for the privilege of the environment provided for your pleasure, for the privilege for you to decide whether you want to bet or not bet, how much you want to bet, what time you want to bet and the list goes on.

    To my mind Baccarat is the most positive neg
     
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  3. Craps

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    Thanks for your reply. I was expecting this because it's the inevitable that no matter how long a Martingale is the Waterloo will come. The question is what if the bust is already factored in and packaged into the whole approach and now the aim is look at the whole picture of the bust together with wins by AVOIDING the bust and cultivate only a few units from the winning times. You do agree there are more wins to a bust because of probability and therefore it's not very tough to AVOID the bust . It's the mindset of treating it as Holy Grail or infallible that like you say you can win for 8 months and gave everything back. It's simpler to just say the Law of Averages gets a Martingale player but if LOA is on your side, you can steal a few units.
    A fine example is to look at 5 hands tracing the next 5 hands. How many times you see an exact trace? Not many but to say it won't come is wrong. It does come and wipe out your winnings and most of the time your accumulation of wins is not enough to cover that loss because of LOA.
    Take a 5 Marty . 1 bust requires 32 wins. Your bust might happen on the 17 th try and now you are down 15 units. You can wait for bust that comes 2 times before 50 units of win and now you have a disparity. The LoA is on your side. Furthermore you are only looking for a few units.
    Remember what I say is facts because if it is not , then one can do a 5 positive Marty to win 31 units risking only 1 unit. Makes sense.Your mindset needs to reset.
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

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    ....................they too are walking among us .
     
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  5. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It never fails. The magical thinkers have that Nirvana state to protect them.
     
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    Sir, on an average, how many hands do you play a shoe provided you don't lose 3 IAR or 3 of last 4?

    Thank You,
    Mark
     
  7. Lungyeh

    Lungyeh Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the ‘texture’ of the shoe. I remembered during the B&M yonder days, I would do maybe @20-30 hands with HPB or maybe more if perceived patterns are strong. And that also is because where I play they allow free games ie no bets.

    Now playing irregularly online, I tend to change between the 6 baccarat tables (you can glance all 6 at a time, choose one and then zoom in), so I really dont know Sir.

    My beautiful sentence was truncated. Baccarat is the most positive negative expectation game.

    Stay blessed; you and yours.
     
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  8. judge

    judge Active Member

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    Thank you for the reply.

    Nark
     
  9. Craps

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    One minute you were referring to LOA stating why Martingale fails and now you are discarding it ?
    The most OVERLOOKED reasoning in Baccarat. The Law of Averages. It's is the one thing that permits the House Edge to work effectively for the Casinos.
    All you guys seems to ignore it. I embraced it and that's why I was able to make a comeback to Baccarat. It did take me quite a bit to understand and accept it.
     
  10. Craps

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    A ha!!! Baccarat is negative Expectancy in general terms where all possibilities and probabilities are deemed EVEN. That is why NO systems will work on paper. But Human is alive and cunning . Work around it like I do . Find disparity. Do some homework LY. You got nothing to lose. What if it works?
     
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  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Since you don't really know how to target wins or losses you are clueless as to what I'm referring to. Just enjoy your trip free life. Don't be concerned about what I think of your strategy. I can wait for you to blow up.
     
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  12. Lungyeh

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    Was there a ching-a-ling Marty bet series proposed on this forum before? Something that sounds like that anyway. What happened? Was it widely adopted? The originator?

    I followed for awhile as the proposer made changes as he go along. Then he got wiped out once too often. I didnt follow through..
     
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    Why change the subject? You just display your incompetence of giving Baccarat advices. You contradict stating LoA is the main reason for Martingale failure and when I explained how I deal with that you chose to shy away from it. Peace!
     
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  14. Craps

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    I never for once post a method with Martingale. I am stressing on how to use Martingale effectively. Get that record straight. Peace.
     

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    Gee Craps. Please dont get ahead of yourself and be so conceited. I was asking about Ching-a-Ling posted maybe, on this forum some time ago. Why would I even be thinking that would be you or even implying so?

    Cannot see the connection lines. Anyways, all sorts of people to make the world interesting...
     
  16. Craps

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    It doesn't matter. I wasn't displeased with your post. I am just saying I am different from those people who wrongly perceive Martingale. Apparently nobody understand or TRY to understand. That's not the way to improve. Although I kept questioning your approach but I am learning why you are doing what you are doing.
     
  17. Craps

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    I read your Reading Randomness. It's fallacy based. But if you were to use a Math based reasoning to get your selections then you can argued your findings. That way, I will be the first one to explore thoroughly about your contribution.
     
  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm waiting for you to blow up. And confirmation bias leads to lame research.
     
  19. Jimske

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    Not sure you are posting accurate information.

    My understanding is that he proposed a 24 step progression. Here it is:

    (LeveL 1 - $10-$16-$22-$28-$34-$40 = $150 (Up $6 on a Lost, down $4 on win.)
    (LeveL 2 - $15-$24-$33-$42-$51-$60 = $225 (Up $9 on a Lost, down $6 on win.)
    (LeveL 3 - $30-$48-$66-$84-$102-$120 = $450 ( Up $18 on a Lost, down $12 on win.)
    (LeveL 4 - $60-$96-$132-$168-$204-$240 = $900 ( Up $36 on a Lost, down $24 on win.)
    Any two consecutive wins decrease to whatever LeveL vaLue of the that LeveL, (if LeveL 3
    and win two bets in a row instead of going down $18 you decrease by $30),
    but never Lower than the starting LeveL amount.
     
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  20. TraderKing

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    Thanks for this thread... how does one communicate directly with members here? There is not a direct message option correct? I just want to ask something in private...
     
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