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Yo, Giz. Please note that I did not pump my successes like Punkcity basically saying I JUST WIN with no solid reasoning.
I used Martingale as my progression and you are already eyes closed and brain closed. Did I not explain extensively how I go about doing my thing. The Martingale that you known that failed does not resembles what I am doing. Instead of filling your Baccarat appetite for knowledge whether it is good or bad, you choose to stay in front of everybody. You EVEN go on to wish I blow up all my money. That tells a lot about what type of person you are. I think you you are a hustler preying on desperate people seeking for a method. Isn't LY one of your victims?

 

He's my only victim. I took the money he offered me and I blew up. Life is funny that way.
I gave away Reading Randomness for free after proving to myself that others could learn it.

You are going to blow your bankroll. You will keep doing it until you get tired of it.

 

That’s a low blow Craps. Labelling me ‘desperate people’. Please take your quarrel elsewhere until you learn the decorum of Jae. Else whatever you shout about Martingale its like a spit in the wind.

 

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Sorry to make you think that way.

 

When you told about your sob story about losing your savings, my heart melted and when Punkcity pounded away I asked for less aggression. Some people should just be kicked at and spat at when they are down. You belong to this category.

As an investor and serial investor, I have made money and lost money. Life goes on. As I told Giz to move on as well.

My search is not for a desperate method as you probably are. It was a venture to see if baccarat results can be replicated in a team to magnify the results. Giz failed to do it but he has claimed to move on to improve on it.

Jae kindly explained his methodology and it sounds replicable and I am exploring that.

Nobody seems interested in your 3 page thread of Martingale because you cannot articulate yourself with decorum to interest anybody. Instead you pick fights all over the place. When you are a loser, be humble. Anyway, God bless you.

 

That’s how scammers talk. If you aren’t succeeding “their” way, then they are rooting for you to lose. Speaking of archives... on this very thread I remember when he was ousted for scamming. Of course he got on the defensive. Facts are facts though, he had a method, he believed in it, needed a bankroll because he’s broke like most scammers are the majority of the time. He lost dudes money, and even tried sort of reversing the blame if I remember correctly. Trying to justify it by saying he was doing all the work and I dunno, something very distasteful.

LY most likely invested in him because Jizz was talking up his voodoo psychic shit so well, LY being a business man didn’t take the loss as super personal because he has invested in profitable businesses and made bad investments. Investing in a loser like Giz didn’t phase him. Giz will always remember we it because it’s probably rare that anyone has ever believed in him or backed him in his life, and while his experience with LY could have been life changing, he gambles the dudes money away, and then complained that he was “WORKING HARD” while LY wasn’t doing nothing but providing the money. Sad because a guy like Giz as a pathetic human being only sees the world how he wants to see it. He justified gambling away someone else’s money with him working. Him spending the hours at the casino. Doesn’t and won’t ever realize that the money handed to him didn’t fall off a fucking tree. While LY is successful, his success wasn’t handed to him. Scammers like Giz don’t realize that the money they are scamming was worked hard for as well by the person being scammed. since it appears comments have disappeared and that he hasn’t seemed bothered by Jizz and his super cringey ass kissing comments. I went back through the thread, and seriously.... he is so cringey. It’s almost as if he’s trying to groom LY again. I’m really glad you brought it up, I think that things like this shouldn’t be swept under the rug. It’s one thing if his victim forgives him, but don’t let anyone else get duped.

maybe we should start a new thread posting known scammers.

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JustBeRich

Fucking low life human scum.

 

Pay it back you stupid piece of shit. Don’t fucking gamble anymore until you make it right. If you do so well with your random voodoo bullshit, pay back your victim. And hard to believe he’s the only person you’ve screwed. Probably just the only one we know about. Pay him back.

 

You are wrong. I got so much PM and reply the same message. Design your own approach using my philosophy. My destiny is not yours. My method is a grinding method winning only small money. I am not looking to beat the casino.

 

I don’t think he was trying to belittle you, he was speaking in part for most scamming victims in general. A lot of people that would get sucked into a line that someone like Giz would feed them, is because of desperation. I believe you were just looking at it as a business investment, and while you have taken your losses admirably, and while Giz spends his time trying to carefully save face, I don’t think he deserves that. While you may not be desperate, the next person he steals from might be.

 

Let’s move on. Jae, yours is not a small business any more ya! Keep up the good work. And keep the $ rolling in...

 

Well....what a way to ruin a good thread...

 

I don’t know.... I think of this thread as a business thread. I think of this forum as an educational experience. If you go to school for business, they aren’t going to teach baccarat, they probably won’t cover seedy business partners either. But unfortunately, you may bump into those types in business. There’s a perfect example of that happening here in this thread, to not spend a few moments here and there discussing it, wouldn’t really be covering some of the basics, it would be skim coating the problem.

I don’t want to attack anyone. I don’t get off on it, and I honestly don’t want to direct my distaste with Giz. But I don’t have any respect for him, so it makes it easy for me to be so blunt. He still has the opportunity to do the right thing, I don’t know him personally, so I don’t know if he will... I assume he won’t based on the responses I remember reading from him about the situation. Sounds like he’s wiped his hands clean of it.

10 years ago, when I was a contractor. I jumped on an opportunity to do gutter installations. I thought it was a good service to add to my list. The gutter machine I purchased cost $6,000. I didn’t have that kind of money to invest, but I had been doing the research and the money potential looked good. I ran into an old acquaintance at Home Depot one day, and we got to talking. He was a contractor that owned a successful HVAC company, and my company had worked with his on an apartment rehab prior to this. He was asking how business was going, just chewing the fat, and for some reason I brought up the idea I had about adding gutter services to my list of services. He seemed genuinely supportive of the idea, and I followed it up with... “yeah, but I do t have the six grand I need to buy the machine or else I’d do it.”

he called me two days later and said things had been going well for him and that he liked me as a person and a co tractor, then he offered to help me buy the machine. I’d just pay him back as I started making money with it. So I did. I took his six grand. We didn’t sign any paperwork, no contracts. There was no guarantee I wasn’t going to screw him over. Because why and who would screw over someone this awesome???

I didn’t think obtaining the gutter jobs would be too difficult, I wasn’t planning on making it my main source of income, but I did plan for it to bring in a few jobs here and there. I figured after about ten jobs I’d have him paid off. I posted Craigslist ads and finally got my first hit. It wasn’t a huge job, but it was for $800 and I thought this was a perfect opportunity to use my new machine and get some photos for my portfolio.

I didn’t take any money up front from the customer for labor, just materials. I got screwed. They never paid me, I had thought about going to their home an removing the gutters, but instead I paid $50 and filed small claims. They were never successfully served and I didn’t even get to take them to court. I took the hit. The money side didn’t leave a bad taste in my mouth, it was the gutters themselves. It’s not hard work, but I didn’t like it. I don’t instantly give up when I don’t like something, so I continued doing it for 2 more jobs. Also realized, I don’t even like heights. So I said fuck it. I decided to try and sell the machine. Even contacted existed gutter companies. I could sell this thing. It’s still sitting in my sister’s garage back in Missouri. At this point, the guy that gave me the money... well, I hardly know him, he hardly knows me. The chances of running into him again, weren’t impossible, but I could have probably gotten away with never seeing him again and fucking him over.

imagine if my response to him giving me $6,000 for a gutter machine to HELP me, was.... I lost money on the job, I did all the work, you just signed a check. You knew that you might not get paid back going into this. That’s about the biggest Dickhead move I could pull and it’s exactly what Giz did. So I contacted him the day after I decided this gutter stuff wasn’t for me. I told him my story about my first job, he laughed cause he gets it. Happens to a lot of us before we build in an implementation that helps us from getting screwed. So I said I had $1,500 in savings and I was going to sell the machine in the meantime. He told me not to worry about the $1,500, just pay him back when I had it all. Not being able to sell the machine sucked, but I made making six grand a bigger priority to pay him back than I did trying to save six grand for my business idea. Because my moral convictions are stronger than my greedy ones. I did pay him back and even offered him $500 for interest which he declined. I’ve never seen him again, never bumped into him at Home Depot. We are Facebook friends, but basically I’m saying I could have screwed him, but I did what I thought was right.

Giz has not, and that’s on him. So I’ll be blunt again, he’s a piece of shit. It should be known and announced and periodically brought up again and again. LY has moved on, but we can’t brush it under the rug, there needs to be evidence here so that no one else gets wrapped up with this piece of garbage.

I think it ads substance to this thread, reminds people of the risks involved in business and the scammers that come with it.

 

I have. And I highly respect you. You happen to be the closest to my style of bet selection. I actually got the two level MM from you. In that you gave me far more than money.

 

Jae, you suck beyond all belief at gutters. What are you anyway, some kind of over glorified handyman? So you got ripped off but you paid your investor back anyway. So you are qualified to judge me. I'm not going to inform you anything. You are just the kind of jerk that would learn something from it. I'm happy that you got jack shit for your gutter business. Now you are tripping on your grandstand about how you will correct the injustices in this world. Man am I glad that this is the best that you have in character. I see you as a dumb5hit when it comes to business and customer relations. You decided to install the gutter for free, just the cost of materials. Why didn't you hand them a business card that said fu*k me, because I like it. And then you went to small claims but never followed up on procedure. You are funny. In fact I now have my own court jester in a bright and colorful jerk suit. You will always be my boy.

Thanks for the best laugh of the day. It's should be a reminder to others that it takes deliberate savvy capabilities to run your own business. You clearly lack all of that.

 

I’m not a great businessman; but I am a successful one. I’d be willing to bet that I’ve made more money in the last year than you have in your entire life, but this isn’t a dick measuring contest.

I’m not battling all the injustices in the world, but damn well pointing them out when they are right in front of me... and here you are. While I know that my comments may come off harsh, and probably bruise your ego. The problem with your ego, is that you value it more than your morals. There’s no just world where your response was the best. The only right thing you can do at this point is pay back the people who put faith and trust into your hair brain schemes. Shouldn’t even be hard since you can read randomness and your shit works for you. I too can read randomness, give me 99 out of 100 possibilities of a man like you doing the honorable thing, I can safely and securely pick the 1 situation in where you continue to be a scum bag.

There is a way for you to come out on top of this, a way to regain some dignity even though I feel as though you may have lost the concept of that at some point in your life.

why don’t you come out publicly and commit to giving LY his money back. I don’t know the amount, and I’m sure it’s relatively small. If you are a regular gambler/player, I’m sure you have enough to cover your debt.

If you are a gambler, here is my proposition. I’m not a scammer, and while I don’t fight all injustices, I’ll take this one on. If you do the right thing, I’ll put my reputation on the line and declare right here, that upon showing me proof that you have paid him back the exact amount he loaned you, I will personally send you $10,000 via cashapp, Venmo, or zelle.

The odds are heavily stacked in your favor and I can probably guarantee you that no one else would ever offer you this simple opportunity to do the right thing. The right thing comes at a cost, the cost of you putting your trust in me in a similar way that LY put his in you.

No one should have to pay you to do the right thing, but I am genuinely on my word committing to this. I don’t think you’re morally inclined to do it, it’s on standby.

 

You are demonstrating what an idiot you still are. Projecting is a problem for you. That was a gutter ball. HAHAHA!

 

Upon writing that, I showed my girlfriend what I wrote. Her reply was similar, I don’t recall if she called me an idiot, but it was something along the lines of: “that’s stupid, why are you going to give this guy $10,000.”

I want you to note something from that, you don’t know me, but she does. She didn’t reply with, “you’re not going to give this guy $10,000,” because she knows I have honor and integrity. When I say I’m going to do something I do it, so she just took it as, it’s dumb that you’re going to give this guy ten grand. But what I know that she doesn’t is that you aren’t smart enough or a good enough person to do this. You shouldn’t even need the chance at ten grand to do the right thing. But now you have it and you’re just going to laugh about it, and I’m laughing too because you have no idea that this is actually 100% a real opportunity, a scratch in my wallet.

While I can’t find the honor in giving a sleeze ball ten grand, the fact is, it’s called “fuck you money.” And I have it.

The offer is still on the table, unfortunately you’re just so used to doing terrible things that you can’t see a good opportunity when it’s kicking you in the face.

cheers!

 

You are not the only one that makes bad business decisions.

I had a deal with LY, I have all the correspondence concerning this. So I looked up the important parts:

He also sent me this picture:



Now what would you do with that?
Do you actually think that I should do what you think is fair?

This is a test of your business savvy. Step up.

 

Are the B&M casinos full in the US. Every other week we have new lockdown procedures. Today, no dine ins, no inter-state travels, no group gatherings etc.

Sigh. The new normal. The next normal.