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OK these questions prove you are out of touch with reality.

He never asked for money and I never gave anything. It's all free and I found the RR thread on a google search.
I will play with money as soon as I have time, currently with a toddler, home office and pregnant wife I have little time to spare so yeah just practicing it for now, I am not really on a hurry.
OK so I don't really have plans to meet him lol, and BTW, to quote Captain America, "there is only one God and I'm pretty sure He does't dress like that", so I don't think Gizmotron is Almighty.
Never really interacted that much with him, just read the RR thread. Read a bit about his life story, he said he has schizophrenia... So I think it is really cruel to annoy someone with mental health issues. I sympathize because I had mental health issues in the past too.
Nothing bothers me about what you are saying about him because really I don't care. His stuff is working for me, he could be, IDK, a psychopath for all I care, if his stuff works, pecunia non olet.
I have 0 student loans thanks to our lovely welfare-state, all free public higher prestigious education for me because I passed the public exam after high school, it's called vestibular, look it up.

 

This a story I told before.

Back a few years ago, I wanted to experiment putting investors together and doing a profit share baccarat venture with people with demonstrable winning gambling methodologies.

I think, even if not impossible, its difficult. Anyway the plan was to fly 3/4 or maybe 5 over to maybe Singaporean casinos (since Singapore is demonstrably safer, law abiding and a US ally for peace of mind of the gamers.

Arrangements will be made with the junkets to make available maybe S$50,000 to 100,000 for each gamer. Junkets are common in Asia and it suits this venture because they will assign staffs to monitor every single minute of game time. And they will allow for say A from USA playing on behalf of LY through their arrangements. Also, they will make available the chips with the necessary AMLA compliance. Profits to be shared 70:30 ot 60:40 and rarely 50:50 with the bigger portion to the capital provider. All flights, food and accommodation arranged. Discussions never came to fruition.

This arrangement does not put any money in the hands of the gamer until they win and they get their profit share. Perhaps that didnt serve their purpose. Lmao. Just to clarify. Anything that does not more or less conform to this arrangement is done more out of charity.

 

It's just a way of saying. Business is hard for Brazilians already, let alone foreigners IMHO. Did you hear Ford just left the country? Wall Mart too. Yeah, I would advise not doing business here. We are turning into Venezuela real soon. In fact, I want to get out of here myself. Only problem is, nowhere to run on covid planet. But who am I right? Just a random dude on a gambling forum. I am serious though, run from Brazilian lawyers.

 

I like that you’ve put thought into the idea. It was definitely an excellent opportunity for someone with the brains and the ability to lead a team assuming that person couldn’t find their own operation.

if the idea had ever worked, what would your next step be in keeping members of your team on once they made enough money to fund themselves? Keep cycling through players?

I had a team member named Edgar, that I really liked in my beginning phase in Connecticut. Smart dude, Yale University student. He might even be a lurker on here (hi Edgar). We had a falling out after three weeks. I have a few simple rules:

No drinking alcohol on the job
No gambling on the job
Don’t do anything that may get yourself or us kicked out

After I trained him and started bringing him along, he was working out great. He disregarded my rules and I’d correct him, he ordered a beer on day 1 from a cocktail waitress and I said, “bro, we do that when we are working.” He got a little bent out of shape. But we moved on. Second week, I took a break and walked around for a bit. When I came back he had $60 loaded in a machine and I saw a relatively small. Maybe $5 on player and a dollar on a tie. What the hell are you doing???? He got defensive and said it was cool, he was playing with his own money, there wasn’t any action going on and told me to chill out. I reminded him that I don’t care if he gambles on his own time, but this is a business. And as long as I was paying him $50 an hour to at least abide by my simple rules while on the clock.

week three rolls around, we just pull out of a grind and I say I’m taking a break to walk around. Decided to come swiftly come back and offer him the first break instead, where I see again he has his own money in the machine. He doesn’t know I see this, and I’m thinking of what I’m even going to say. I didn’t want to fire him because I didn’t know a lot of people on Connecticut since I’m from Missouri. As I’m standing there thinking, he cusses really loud and smacks the machine. I think he lost like twenty dollars or something. I tapped him on the shoulder and said, it’s time to go bud. He tried engaging me in a verbal conflict, but I just kept walking toward the exit. There’s no way I was gonna let this dude get me blacklisted. When I got outside I told him our arrangement was over. Paid him for the day and he replied, “how long did you actually think I was going to work for you, I can do this on my own.”

he wasn’t wrong. This was food for thought. I would actually see him there over the next few days, just a nod. No words exchanged. Then he disappeared and I’ve never seen him sense. I can only assume he didn’t have the funds. I mean, he wasn’t extremely good at my method, but I know he understood it and was good at keeping the numbers ran when I was grinding.

it made me realize that I still needed teammates, but that Edgar was right, how long is anyone going to work for me...

instead of finding someone local, I had my paid for my best friend of 25 years to move up here. Instead of paying him hourly I paid him $50 an hour as well fir nearly a month before I informed him that he was no longer going to make an hourly wage anymore. I said I was staking him, and making him an equal partner. I never had to worry about Jeff’s loyalty to me, but I just figured that if I didn’t want anyone abandoning me, that the best way was for them to know that they aren’t working for me, they are working with me. It removes the elements of temptation, greed, jealous.

technically, the initial investment is still mine, I mean, if he walked, he wouldn’t be trying to walk with my $62,500 that I have backing him. Same with my other two teammates. The opportunity to put more money in the bankroll is often discussed. And everyone is aware that we can do this equally or independently, but we’ve chosen to remain where we are for the time being.

I too am looking to recruit more members. We’d like to expand, but I’m thinking about experimenting with an hourly wage again, or maybe a percentage that will keep going up as time goes by until they reach the level of equal partner, I believe it’s inevitable that they would eventually leave you since they may feel they can do this on their own. One idea is to possibly recruit baccarat dealers themselves. It’s basically someone who already understands the game, is used to being in the casino for 8 hours a day and makes less than $20 an hour. With 2 or 3 dealer recruits and one equal shares partner, I think that’s all I’d need to expand my territory into another casino, but I’d love to keep discussing team creation ideas.

 

You’re in the clear. You are indeed not gizmotron. As a new member to the forum coincidentally coming to the defense of Giz, it did appear way too suspicious. Giz is a scammer, and a little bit nutty, so it wouldn’t be too far fetched for a scammer to create a fake profile to try and garner support.

be weary of the company you keep, and definitely be weary of any method that supposedly beats roulette.

With a toddler and a pregnant wife, I’d probably avoid roulette altogether, but to each their own.

I was wrong, and you were right. Good luck and cheers!

 

Sure thanks no problem. I'm here just to have some fun, actually. You can be suspicious all you want, I mean, technically I am anonymous right? It was just a bit strange to say we had the same IP address, as if you knew that for sure. That is definitely not cool. So why should I trust anything you say? You were just bluffing.

 

Lets move on. Things remain the same for my team in Rio. Lmao.

Anyway, Jae you are right. It would be a very short term arrangement more so now as I understand the psyche of the people around.

And that particular venture was not subject to my personal baccarat philosophy. It was more like do your thing, I fund you and we split. And you are right, it could probably be game over after round one.

The OG on Banker methodology is more suited for replication and less dependent on people than other approaches. Once we work out the finer points as you have for your team.

Profitability is multiplied by number of teams. Theoretically. But nice theory. And I think workable.

 

Well what a disaster, a complete disappointment this thread has become. The thread had promised to help people with the mind set , guidelines to promote one’s self into being a independent business owner instead its turned into a witch-hunt, mob lynch fest.
I understand disagreement etc but wholesale bullying by some posters that are not directly involved, to blowing things way out of proportion, over berated to the extreme. I believe some pages back everyone was asked to drop the matter by thread starter, you ignored him . You hi jacked the thread with your personal vendettas. Perhaps in hind site one of you should have set up a thread titled “ let’s gang rape his azzz then we can eat each other’s cum”
I myself have and will go head to head with people but you all gang bangers , pretty low on the ladder to collectively put your boots into someone while they are down or at least perceived to be down.
I cannot see how the bullying can or could help someone you all claim to have psychological problems other than you all showing your vindictive petty mindedness, most of you show no ability to succeed in this “small business” in the basic category of self discipline.
Personally I’ve stated my opinion of the man to the man himself with out the compelling needs to have others input to justify my personal opinion. from what I’ve just witnessed on this thread of late I would suggest you need to be issuing apologies for getting out of hand.
Some of you are just total low life’s and you will never “get it, ever” the rest of you maybe got caught up in the “emotional side” but no excuse.
I’m surprised the thread is called baccarat the best bully business.
Disappointed

 

Pedro. He's such a gambling expert that he uses a -20 to start betting on an Oscar's Grind negative progression. He's actually asking you to not trust your own eyes. He has openly rejected Reading Randomness. You should read what he said the last time he admitted that he was wrong. It's right here in this thread. He said that I don't owe LY anything. But at least his wife agreed with me. He's stupid. He was going to give me $10,000. That's here too.

Enough. These clowns using tired and worn out progressions that have been researched to death for the past decades are right in the best place for themselves. They think they know what works and are riding high while it still does. It's retribution built into itself. Use your own common sense. I wrote the RR thread so that anyone could confirm for themselves how good they could get at it. And I did this so that they would not have to invest a dime in order to confirm it for themselves. You are doing a great job. I think I will work on about 10 charts and do the reading on them for others to see for themselves. Again, I congratulate you for seeing and exploiting the first example of the Elegant Pattern ever demonstrated on any gambling forum, ever.

 

Well you admit coincidences are real then. Which proves RR can work.

I just realized I still didn't make a chess reference.

 

I wish success to you. I really do. But you know, prepare for the worst.

I love Rio. I was born there. Unfortunately the city has been going downhill for decades.

 

Yes please, that sounds great.

Thank you. This stuff is real. Just takes some patience. Good news is, it takes a lot less patience than a -20 OG which just doesn't sound fun to me.

If progressions like this worked we could just write a script on dicebot and live happily ever after.

 

Well Punkcity, I suppose we take them all in. What you dont need please just ignore. Amazon.com has the most number of book titles and nobody gives a shit what the rest of the world wants; just what they want.

I have this to say since I am central to many of the arguments and the ‘bullying’ as the term you used. The you say, I say and the truth, probably something in between.

I do believe I restrained myself and urged restraint until some narratives were twisted that I had to search my archive to re-live those moments and publish limited extract for each to judge for themselves. And then the salt in the wound the ‘you made it easy for me to take your money innuendo (right after I pleaded for things to stop) must surely identify the person as “the conman salivating a successful con”.

Perhaps those drawn in at that moment can not stand the situation when the person you perceived to be bullied continue to change the narratives.

There is more to refute but I dont feel its is worth my time.

There are some we pity and we encourage them to move on in life. There are those who really must be spat on when down. Many fall into such categories. Where even their own mothers cannot love and cannot forgive. Life’s experiences between my 5th decade and my 6th decade encompasses all.

Nevertheless, these are also lessons for business. Invaluable and not taught in MBA classes. Maybe they are subjects one can drop without the degree witheld. Some people go through life without such experiences. God bless. Some may not be so blessed.

Peace.

 

Punkcity, you seem pretty cool. I rarely read a post of yours that I disagree with. But I disagree with your views on this one.

A scammer around here is like a child sexual offender hanging out in an elementary school. Not saying we are the children, but I’m sure most of the people that paid the bullied victim for roulette training were naïve. If said scammer or sex offender promised to stay away from here or the school but kept coming back, would you stand up for him when people are ousting him? It’s hard for me to think of a scammer as a bullied victim.

 

@Lungyeh I sent an email for you, hope you get it...

 

I like your style...Maybe today Gizmo will be Bubba from Texas and y'all can eat BBQ.

 

I'm not going to give this up without defending myself. The notion that LY made this easy to take the money needs context. How many here think that I would have taken the money if LY had not said that he assumes all the risk? I had no way to save up that kind of money in years of saving. I boldly exposed my back side to the gambling forum. I owned exactly who I was. This is after many conversations between him and me regarding the pitfalls of "the chimp" and "Dare to win, scared to lose." I read that agreement as him not expecting to be paid back. It was a gentleman's agreement without any signed contracts. The money came. I lost it just like a degenerate gambler. I failed at Dare to Win. I was scared and tried to flat bet RR. But that does not matter. LY took the risk on giving me money and it failed to be a good investment. If I were successful I would have ended up doing it again with big bankrolls in Malesia. You all know about the 70% / 30% split arraignment. This all started by LY handing my information and email correspondence over to Alrelax, our favorite malignant narcissist from the Betselection.cc forum. That jerk started to DOX me on the forum. So LY took his pound of flesh in anger. It was the third time that LY had paid me money. This LungYeh doesn't even know he sent me money three times. He clearly remembered it as two times. I was sure that I had figured out TurboGenious' hot number method. I had not. That last draw on LY"s willingness to invest in me ticked him off. So he set Alrelax on me as retribution. Others have taken the story and turned my agreement into their business. So after Jae here tried to thrust the knife in my back like the wonderful businessman with 21's century character that he has clearly demonstrated, I posted the email content for the transaction between LY and myself here a few days ago. I consequently wish Jae all the best of luck in his future endeavors for his part in all this. I'm counting on his business sense to make himself prosper. He shows a huge capacity to solve other people's business arraignments. That should be just enough to get him and his big fat mouth into trouble.

Now we can move on if that is possible. LY made it easy to take his money. 70% / 30% is an incredible business deal if you can get one from someone willing to do all the work in a thriving future. All it takes is a real gambling success. It takes someone that can really consistently win. LY went fishing for that deal and it did not come to fruition. I'm bold enough to see that it was a deal where I would have to have done all the work. Even now that offer is on the table for anyone else here to grasp it and grab it up. I hope LY goes into business with Jae here. That will be fun to watch. Why don't you guys get real nasty and learn RR and wreck everything before I can save enough to exploit it? You can have your needed revenge and revenge by proxy all bundled up into one great exploitation. But to take Oscars's Grind combined with a slick obfuscation trick added in. Ha, you guys deserve each other.

Now we can move on.

 

Hoping to perfect your buzzard skills and grab a cheap meal laying there like a dead carcass? You know what you can eat.