Baccarat Oscar's grind + baccarat

Patterns and trends can work in the stock market. A roulette wheel has no memory, dice have no memory.

 

No one is arguing with that.

 

Jae, a person I really hate, you are not seeing what is important. Don't look for any form of prediction that can never be known. You must use something other than odds or a non existent prediction.

Coincidence occurs. It has no need for it to have a cause. But it also puts out recent data. Now that data is a real thing. I bet on things that look like they might continue. The odds are against me everyone says. Really? Since when do the odds tell you when a streak will occur, how long it will last, and when it will end? Odds have very little to do with recent trends. You want to look like you know what this is. But you are just using muddy the water, red herrings, and outright misconceptions to further your illusions and comprehensions that you think are correct.

 

I hope you keep living a sheltered life. You need to go to Yosemite and try some free soloing.

 

Well shit, maybe you just needed some guidance. I’m not the best math boy on here, but if you name any streak amount, I can actually tell you the odds of that streak size coming. I can easily do this for any even chance bet that roulette has to offer. Hell, I can actually do this for almost any game. I would only struggle a bit with blackjack, but I might even be able to nail that one too.

I understand that it’s very difficult for you and not just you, plenty of others to see that all of these patterns aren’t actually exploitable anomalies. They fall right into the house edge. What you are doing can’t beat the negative expectation in the long run. You can get lucky short term, and short term might be years. And even with proper money management it’s still not in your favor to beat a game with such a large house advantage. And while I loathe your method, if you were to apply it to only the banker bet in Baccarat, then it could possibly work long term if the rest of your energy goes into creating the money management aspect of it. It would need to be very conservative, and have a large bankroll to withstand the swings. You may event want to try Oscar’s Grind.

Shit, we are actually getting somewhere. Okay, take your RR or any bet selection strategy or trend analyzing philosophy you have. Place it mechanically anywhere in Baccarat only betting banker. Back yourself with a big bankroll and I will actually semi-endorse it. It might make things a little more complicated than it has to be, but I think you can make that work.

 

That's the dogma of the church of 19th century materialism isn't it. Totally unrelated events...Ok. But that is just a theory. Where is the definitive proof that this is objectively true? What if there is an underlying connection to everything? It doesn't have to have a memory. Actually. It is quite simple. Do you believe in God? I do. He has a memory. There is not a single thing out of His control. Including roulette spins and dice. That's just one possible explanation.

 

I don’t like to compare the stock market to gambling with casino games. We can make analogies, and while you can gamble in the market. It’s not something that anyone should compare.

If instant gratification is needed, gambling is more rewarding for that person. The stock market can be predicted, roulette cannot (not including biased wheels and electronic devices). Gamblers don’t usually last long in the stock market, they typically aren’t equipped with the necessary tools, some examples would be discipline, patience, and lots of capital. These also happen to be the same tools that you need in OG to make it successful, but I still won’t compare the two.

If you want to bring religion into this, that’s fine and dandy, but it doesn’t change the game. You say that these games have been around for hundreds of years and no one has found a way to beat them, and I think you might have possibly been implying that gizmo is the first? Or perhaps it was sarcastically directed towards me? I dunno, but I do know a story about a man in the 1950’s who developed a system that he claimed he never lost on. He had a large bankroll and his goal was to win $1 in a series. His claims drew interest, and so an author researched his claims and came up with the conclusion that Oscar might be telling the truth, but that in his own testings he found that you would experience a drawdown of 13,000 units 1 in every 5,000 sessions. This was based on craps. Probably the don’t pass. That was enough for me to realize how to exploit that even if those are the actual figures. But another added benefit is that I don’t play it on craps. I use it on a better bet. I don’t care if you don’t see it. My ego doesn’t depend on anyone believing me.

Maybe I’m just as lucky as Oscar himself (probably more so). But I couldn’t be happier with how well it’s worked for me. Changed my life in over a million ways.

 

That's nice. Dicebot LUA scripts are easy to learn and program. 51% chance pays a bit less than 1:1 in dice though. HOWEVER, if your MM outperforms the HE and commission IN THE LONG RUN, maybe it will work on dice too in spite of that? Let's code it and let the thing run!

 

Baccarat is beginning to sound more and more like it is NOT a game of CHANCE decided by a binary outcome with occasionally Ties in between.
Why as I read more and more I began to feel I am going backwards and clueless.
Baccarat for people worst than Dummies ?

 

By the way, do you know OG is also known as Hoyle's Press?
Another name is the Pluscoup Progression.

 

I’m well aware of hoyle’s press; but this is the first time I ever heard it referred to as pluscoup progression. I’ll have to Google that and see if there are any internet threads that I’ve missed. Thanks craps.

hoyle’s press actually inspired me to name what I call “reverse Oscar’s grind,” Jae’s Press. Since I couldn’t find anyone online using or detailing the method of what I consider a reverse grind, I thought I’d name a crappy system after myself since I plan on doing a write up or video detailing it for people to investigate, test and make alterations to.

 

I’m not trying to rub anyone the wrong way. Nor am I claiming to be the know all, because I’m not. Far from it.

Every shoe is going to have a good mix of players and bankers. When it comes down to it, in the short term, your can win doing whatever you want.

I often witness a lot of Asians at the live tables with bankrolls of $10,000-$80,000 making wild bets, banker, player, tie, bonus dragon bets. And I’ve seen them win multiple hands in a row. I’ve seen them walk with good winnings. I can’t vouch for them as to whether or not they are making more than they are losing in the long run. I don’t see what they are doing aside from simply playing the game their way, guessing with their intuition or seeing a pattern they like on the board. But I also don’t see the casino closing tables. In fact, a few weeks ago Mohegan put in about 40 more stadium machines.

So, I’m sorry if my opinions are coming off trying to change anyone’s method or belief, I’m just sharing my own. We all gotta do what works for us.

 

The don’t pass is my second favorite house bet in the casino even though I haven’t played it in over ten years. In terms of units, it can get a little more out of hand than the banker bet in Baccarat.

One of the biggest problems for most players that would use this on craps is the extra time involved. In Baccarat, the decision time between bets is much smaller, in craps, you can easily wait for 20 minutes or more for a decision. I’m sure if you were to time it down and average out craps decisions, it may fall into the 5 minute mark, but it will truly test a players patience, especially if they are waiting for a virtual trigger. While I’m not the biggest personal fan of computer simulations, I do encourage you to do this testing. I haven’t completely divulged my building from scratch method yet, but I’m confident you can figure out something that you can see that will work. The first goal in your test should be to double your bankroll. That’s the first hump. At that point, double your unit size. Make another 1,000 to 2,000 units, or whatever you decide at your discretion, and then split your bankroll evenly into two. That’s the second hump. Once you’re at this stage, a bust won’t put you out of play. But you’ll have another hump to get over. As you create your own money management strategy to apply to building your bankrolls and splitting and resetting you should see how one is able to turn 2,000 units into 1 million.

 

What I hear is, "I don't like it, therefore anyone should do it." Who made you the analogy police?

Technical analysis uses trends. The ups and downs during the day are practically random, they also should have "no memory". Some whale buys a bunch of bitcoin in Japan making it go up, right after some other whale sells a bunch of it in Texas making it go down, with no connection whatsoever to each other and for totally different reasons. And yet there are people who make money day-trading that. Just looking for trends without reading a single report or news or even having to know why did it go up or down.

It changes the premise upon which we construct the idea that each spin is totally unrelated. What if there are metaphysical relations between everything that we cannot understand but can still make money off?

What I meant was, you would be the first to beat gambling with fixed MM alone. I think that RR has the potential to somehow beat gambling, yes. Because it is not rule based. In gambling, if you do the same thing every time, you will lose eventually. Even if that same thing is "be random all the time". In RR, each bet is a different scenario that you have to analyze. Each bet is somewhat different. So you are using a different strategy every bet. Strategies have ups and downs. RR tries to identify what is the strategy going up at the moment. What is left to figure out is, will the strategies only hold for half the time as soon as you enter them? Sometimes yes, and sometimes no. This cannot be simulated or predicted. I don't know how to test this, except applying it IRL.

Let's imagine there was a coin flip tournament. 2048 participants, one against each other trying to guess what will the coin land on. At the end of all the rounds, only one person would win. Congratulations. This might be you. Next tournament, will the same guy win again? He might be just lucky. He doesn't know why he won. But he quits everything to become a professional coin flipper. Do you think perhaps he is an accident waiting to happen? I would not bet my life on any MM alone, much less OG.

 

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I meant online crypto dice, not craps. You can choose the odds in crypto dice. The payout changes accordingly. So a 5% odds pays more than a 50% odds and more than a 95% odds. You can have a quadrillion units because crypto has 8 decimal houses to play with and in some places the minimal bet really is that low. You can program dicebot (google it) to play for you while you sleep.

 

I need your help with this:

put ((( ((S1[a + 1] + S2[b + 1]) mod 4294967296) bitXor S3[c + 1] ) + S4[d + 1] ) mod 4294967296) bitXor xR into xR

BTW, that's my secret to Cyber Block chaining in a native X-Talk development platform as part of my own version of the Blowfish algorithm.

 

You are the one with no memory, not the wheel. I just said I went from 0,1 to 30 in one week with trends. That's 3.000%. I already beat that goal. The difference is I know why I did it, even if it turned out to be less than 15 dollars in the end.

 

That’s fine dude, you appear to be lost then as this is the baccarat + Oscar’s Grind thread.

I understand that you are a natural born follower and follow around Gizmo from thread to thread, never actually veering off and doing your own thing. I mean, it could just be a coincidence, but I think your charade is short lived.

 

Yep, he's trashing anyone that disagrees with him.