Baccarat Baccarat - the best small business

If you go here, you will see Steve plastered all over the scam board.

https://www.gamblingforums.com/forums/roulette-scams.58/

roulettephysics sites are a known scam. It means you are literally an affiliate for a scam artist bigger than yourself.

Also, it’s confirmed that the technology that is being sold, the devices don’t even work.

To your benefit, maybe you didn’t know that you were affiliated with the scam, but I personally think you’ve known damn well what you’ve been doing. Every single dime you’ve made off of that site was ripping someone off. You only made a fraction of the money that was scammed from real people, but you still benefited from the scam.

Steve from Australia is also a member on this site if you’d like to see his profile.

If you read this scam alert you will notice at the bottom it says that anyone affiliated with that convicted scam artist is aiding and abetting. That’s you.

https://www.gamblingforums.com/thre...eorge-hourmouzis-is-a-convicted-scammer.5434/

here’s your business partner that you send leads to. Notice the kind moderators of this site have added “compulsive liar” to his profile.

https://www.gamblingforums.com/members/steveh.1927/


I hope this clears things up so we can put this to rest. I think you should delete your roulette site if you truly weren’t aware that you were in bed with a convicted scammer.

 

So, baccarat is the best small business because anybody from trailer parks to ‘Brazil’ to USA to Malaysia to Australia can make money from it.

I had my own ideas about winning long term and less stressfully encapsulated in the earlier pages of this thread; primarily emphasising on Money Management.

Along the way, I was attracted to OG/Banker methodology propounded by Jae. I put on record that it was worthwhile for me to explore because it looked replicable because a substantial part of discretion was taken out of the equation. I tried it with insufficient bankroll and the kinds of potential drawdown put me off. I am continuing to explore it at leisure for the simple fact that it is as mechanical as one can get and replicable. All the pitfalls that Jae mentioned are really points for consideration. And like I said, the world today where everything can be copied, belongs to those who can find the small differences that matter. Jae found it and made it work for him and his team. We have had our private discussions and I think it is so unfair on him.

I really dont know what RR is about. Its like a VC presentation where project promoters will each tell the VC investors why their project is good and why investors should give them money. Or in this case the investors can take it and make money themselves nary a thought for the inventor. Then, amongst the people in the audience was a Joan of Arc, amongst many nicknames given (gender difference notwithstanding) who had invested in supposedly, an earlier crude, not ready methodology. The supposed reasons for failures were many but you know that when you dont respect the people who gave you money, is it unreasonable for him to disregard anything that guy may ever propose in future? Not because of the assumption that RR is nonsense and will not work. But because of his bad experience with the attitude and mental health of the founder?

 

The approach espoused here may not be endorsed by all.

Hei, OG has a thread. RR has a thread. Martingale too. Leave the Chimp here alone. My messages and pearls of wisdom which may be invaluable for a holistic approach to treating baccarat as a business is lost in the process.

So Pedro, be where you are whether in Brazil or a trailer park somewhere in the US and Giz, go where you will be acknowledged and endorsed. Your RR thread. Prejudiced as I may be, I cannot for obvious reasons, be endorsing someone and his project given the history. Is that too difficult to accept?

Please. Be guided accordingly.

 

You call me scammer and someone called Steve a scammer, but I know him and he is not a scammer! If someone put shit online about someone of course it is easy to see that and bad information comes to people mind much powerful than a good one! So the true is, Steve is good guy and what he is doing can beat the casino! But many coyotes just blah blah blah without doing real stuff! I went to casino with camera and I went as a bettor and we made money and we share (Steve Camera man and me) so where is a scam if when I was a bettor he said number 4 and number 4 appeared on roulette wining number with my bet placed on it? He is so precise with numbers that sometimes you need to pretend loosing to avoid attention from staff! Imagine you are at casino and wining 5 numbers in a row by betting just 1 chip! So I will not waste my time to read bullshit what people write about him as I know that he is not scammer! I have his technology at my home and when casinos will be open I maybe will be in action again.

 

Ok, I look at this posts, well, 2018... technology moves forward, I can not discloser what we are using now, but we no need old nokia anymore or put something in your shoe, its is enough just smart phone and simple just hidden camera.

 

You are from Malaysia? Cool, I know personally manager of the casino (the only one you have there)

 

Yup. The casino jumped the vaccination queue and had their staffs vaccinated and caused a furore. Lmfao. Casinos it seems, is more important than manufacturing in Malaysia

 

The roulette venture on cameras etc must really be stressful. How many seconds between spin starting and instruction received?

My blood pressure will surely go up. But I am sure it would be suitable for those who claim they excel in extreme life challenging sports. If not for anything else, for the adrenaline flow.

 

Yes I know they all got a shot.

 

normally 5 to 7 seconds. sometimes just before closing the bets.

this video gives you perfect example what you hear as a bettor.

 

Isnt it dangerous? Its not allowed in the sense the casinos wont allow it if they know right? Dont need to argue whether its legal ot illegal they just wont allow it? So if they find out one can be banned from the casino and possibly charged?

Good luck la bro.

 

when is team work almost impossible to catch and also I would not allow anyone to touch me or check my pockets.
one is with camera..he never bets big.
bettor has a way to comunicate with PC and gets info where to bet.
both comes to the table and pretends that they do not know each other.
i have no idea how they can catch anybody if they just play.
now even better. possible to sit at terminal and take video of the wheel there. So imagine camera man sits at Terminal and takes the video and bettor plays at real table. for example bettor listens the music with headphones...but actually he hears numbers.
Phone always encripted.

I would never go in casino where by goverment law for this thing you go to jail. For example USA.

 

Could you do it with online live casino feeds or are they all rigged?

 

Sad to have noticed that it does not take much to drag a decent topic into the mud .


The topic is Money Management bot cheating by either side .

 

we just jump too much and too far from the original topic , why cant we just get set boundaries on ourselves and here we speak of the importance of self-control as we play, about as we live ?
R.

 

I think the drama has pretty much subsided. This is an Internet forum filled with people from all walks of life, normal people, geniuses, crazies. Since many of these are gamblers, I would never bet on a topic always staying on point or discussing what you want to hear. Even at your job or place of business, the conversations and chit chat are not always about the company or the work. But if you are chatting it up for fun or even having some drama at your job, the moment a work related issue or question is brought up, I’m pretty sure the conversation is going to be geared towards that as a priority over whatever else was being discussed.

No one has to be drug into water cooler talk, you can ignore it or if it drives you crazy enough, quit your job. If it bothers you that bad, it might not even be the people or the discussions they are having, but your own control issues or tendencies to complain about everything—might just not be a good fit for you.

If anyone wants to talk about baccarat business, you have the floor and plenty of people waiting for you and your questions, thoughts, or ideas.

If you are here to learn, then unfortunately you may have to sift through some pages. If your reaction to some of the past discussions that seem off topic to you bother you enough to complain, then you aren’t actually offering up any solutions, you’re just bitching. And that’s fine too, it’s equally annoying and might rub people the wrong way, but it’s an Internet forum, with no internet police. Like the comments you like, ignore the ones you don’t.

cheers!

 

I really hope this thread could return to its first purpose..... Now the information is mixed up with arguments and useless things....

 

Who would like to discuss money management and building?

If you are here, then perhaps you treat baccarat as a business. How are you treating your business? Are you trying to grow, or content with the current business you have? Even if you are content, you open a small restaurant or fast food joint, a lot of business-minded people that have a working model try and grow/expand.

There are plenty of pros and cons and I’m up for discussion.

Some people try growing or expanding too fast and it backfires.

Some businesses remain content living off of the modest income the business provides but sometimes fail because they run into mishaps down the road that their modest income and savings can’t cover.

I’m always interested and confused by some player’s business models. I see plenty of folks touting that they beat baccarat, whether it’s just to make $100-200 a day or 3-5 units, sometimes valued at $100 unit sizes.

One of the things that attracts us to this particular business in the first place I believe is the money potential. And while many players are somewhat passionate about the game, I don’t think we can say that our passion for this relatively boring game is keeping us coming back every day. It’s the money... right?

I believe any business you are involved in you should at least somewhat be passionate about it, but bottom line, in most cases it’s the money that’s the driving force. Unless you’re an artist or a unique chef or have a certain talent or niche into a particular business, I think we can still agree that baccarat is a money driven business.

If you have a winning method, but are only making $100-200 a day, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I’m not sure why you aren’t growing. One could say that they just aren’t greedy or what not, but my business mind can’t wrap my head around it.

I’m interested in growth and finding the perfect formula between risk management and growing potential. When I discuss starting out at OG, I recommend at least a 2,000 unit bankroll. Even if these units are in dollars, the growth formula is what helps me get the maximum benefit from that starting capital before it is ruined.

With any business, there is a hump and a high risk of failure in the beginning. They say that a large percentage of new businesses don’t make it past their first year, in this business, you might not make it past your first day.

We have to pay ourselves, when people grind out a 9-5 workday for another company, they are used to an hourly wage or a salary. Sometimes these people have ideas, they’ll implement their ideas into a side business, the side business may perform well enough that they understand the profit potential and quit their primary job focusing on the business. Their growth stage can sometimes be altered because going full time into the business also requires more funding into it as well, when they pay themselves first, the business model can fall apart. Hopefully they already had this figured out before they quit their job, but in relation to baccarat, your first hump is making back your initial bankroll. I think it’s important to reach this micro-goal before paying yourself. Once you reach this point, you are faced with a business decision.

Do you pocket the initial bankroll?
Apply some towards growth?
Double it towards growth?
Use this as a backup bankroll?
Pocket some and invest the other part?

 

Very nice quote, LY!

Small differences make this game beatable itlr, but when the ship containing those small differences arrives, we better not to wait it at the airport.

Always Banker bettors rely upon the probability to get a more than average, average or slight than average amount of asymmetrical hands math favoring banker side per every shoe played.
We know that per each shoe dealt, the asym hands number is quite restricted and of course many asym hands go toward Player's side despite the math disadvantage.
I mean that too many shoes are disregarding a general math propensity as the actual card distribution dictates the probabilities.

It's true that from a strict math point of view always wagering Banker will be a 0.18% less worse option than wagering Player, but this feature will apply whenever we are not trying to consider the actual card distribution per every shoe dealt. And each shoe is affected by a finite and card dependent process.

But to know we'll get a real long term advantage we must classify our B and P bets destiny: banker bets must get at least a 51.3% probability to happen and player bets anything above the 50% probability. With every back to back considerations applied to the successions we'd like to classify.

Finally, even though Jae's plan is very different to mine, I have to thank him and some others about many interesting considerations he has made along the way.

After all, we must put together different ideas to beat this fkng game, always remembering that small differences will get us a sure fkng sure and certain advantage by a 1 trillion accuracy.

as.

 

I'm sorry I just have to point out something here. You basically just skipped over all my arguments and kicked me out of your other thread yesterday because I disagreed with you on the very central topic discussed - OG. So... Yeah. Double standards?