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Baccarat Q's and Cashews

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Baccaritic, May 22, 2021.

  1. Baccaritic

    Baccaritic Member

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    I've got some questions for you Soxfan.

    Let me be clear. I'm familiar with your play. I recognize many truths to your posts that others leave out. They leave them out, because they don't have the real experience, they are speculating, and don't quite get it right. For example, bumped into a guy that claimed his cousin was autistic, said he would take him to the casino and his cousin could tell him which cards were left in the deck. Said he got banned for winning too much, wouldn't let him bring his cousin anymore. Doesn't work that way. If this guy had any real casino experience, he'd know it. Just speculation on his part. ( not too mention, I saw that movie too )

    There are other things you say however that do not line up. So I have a bit more skepticism about your play than I used to. But the questions are serious. I'm genuinely interested in your answers. Some of it you may have already stated, some of it is likely easily guessed. But I don't want to assume anything here. Like I said, some things don't line up. Assumptions aren't going to help.
    I expect my questions to be offensive. I just can't seem to separate indifference and incredulity. Hence, the 'critic' in my name. But I am not trying to be offensive, unfortunately it seems effortless and reflexive. I'm working on it.

    1. What made you move from making your daily cake at the Craps table to the Baccarat table?

    A. At $40 an hour, why not chip up to $400 an hour? difference between a five dollar bet and a fifty dollar bet seems insignificant with the possession of balls and bankroll and a positive expectation. It could be as simple as being tired of standing at a craps table, or stuck socializing with a rude crazy superstitious bunch of degenerates. Or it could be some perceived advantage at the Bac table. That would be information I'm interested in.

    2. Did you play your 11 step parlay progression on the Don'ts? and if you did why did you choose not to play the same on Banker? Let me clean that up.... Why did it take so long to recognize the Banker bet had the same advantage as the Don't Pass? Could be as simple as you were raking in the money and no longer contemplated the game, just collected your daily take. Then again, it could be something else, information I'm interested in.

    I have more. Not sure if you will respond in public, in private or at all. I know I come of combative, can't seem to curb that. Wish I wasn't aware of it. Ignorance is bliss. It is possible some of it you would rather I not go into detail about. Keeping that in mind I just worked on the peripheral questions.

    Baccaritic
     
  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    To answer yer question I made a decent parts time income grindin the don'ts usin a variation of the carsch style what require backs to backs win to capture profits. I switch to baccarats because at my local it easier to find an open space at baccarats than findin a spot at dices table. I started usin my 11 step modify star style at baccarats but had to switch to 13 step parlay style cuz of narrow spread between min/max bets at the baccarats table. I had times on my hand so tested the bankers bet only style and came to conclusion it's the best bets selection style yer gonna get at the baccarats, hey hey.
     
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  3. Baccaritic

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    Thank you Soxfan. In retrospect it seems trivial, but some things will just bounce around in yer head forever. And I agree. Banker is the best bet. I hate to agree wholeheartedly with you about the Player bet being a bad proposition but it is exactly that. Some lingering attraction for a commission free win, or some worthless sense of satisfaction winning a P bet. Without counting (worthless in a person's life time) or edge sorting the Player bet is fool's gold.

    More questions. I appreciate your time.

    When you got squeezed at your local, changing the rule from unlimited free hands to few or none. I'm curious, how did that go down? Was it ugly? Some smooth talking suit? Did you get confrontational about it? I don't mean flipping tables, I mean did you pointedly pursue a reason?

    The real question.

    Were you not able to flat bet the table minimum for the free hands? And run your progression at a higher chip value. I would expect the house edge of just 1% or so of a minimal sized unit to be manageable, negligible really. I really would just expect you to ignore it. The only thing I can think of is if the bet spread is that tight. Or, hostility from the casino.

    Other than that, I'm interested in breaking down your parlay progression. I am unsure if you are subtly trying to protect something, or if its all been out there. You have made mention a time a two about holding back some information. I'm not sure what that would entail. Without the specifics I can only suspect everything as being perhaps not exactly what it appears.

    You never made mention of analyzing your unit progression, and adjusting it for maximum return. This really is a hang up for me. Maybe it would reveal something you would rather not reveal about the WL registry of your bet selection. But yeah, this is the meat of what I'm wanting to get into.

    Thanks,
    Baccaritic
     
  4. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to answer yer question the free hand policy at my local joint was usually in flux. By that I mean the policy would vary and depend on who was working the pit at a particular time. Eventually at the end they pretty much allowed me zero free hand and I couldn't bet table min to keep thing moving along was cuz the base unit bet in my progression was the table min. So that and lowering the spread between min/max bet put the kibosh on my style, hey hey.
     

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