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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    17 repeats. +1 for repeats at 40 spins.
    Now GLOAT; That's General gormless where's the time machine. I've flat bet and can still take a profit.
    There's 8 numbers to choose from. But who do we use?
    You can work on that. Forget that Vaddi.

    Data gained from KTF
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  2. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    We'll find out in 20 spins.
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  3. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    27 of the starting 37. That #11 would you have picked it up?
    This is a great stream; that does not always happen thou.
    Still flat betting and a profit. This is when the mention of a prog could be big bucks.

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  5. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Gigi following the leader. Just the 1x's.
    Do you think I wouldn't be up with just 9 to choose from.
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    What a surprise 60 spins 30/60
     
  6. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Follow the leader. Some leave; but start finishing strong. 9 to choose from; above should have been 7. Red non-hit after 60 spins
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    Gigi how many would you use? I'm just following 1x's
     
  7. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Okay Turbo, I'll say no more.
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  8. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Give you this. Following the leaders who finished the laps.
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  9. Gigi666

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    I tried with just leader but switched to top 2,when new high reset and bet just leader of new lap and so on. Not enough tested though to say it'll work
     
  10. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Gigi did he reveal the result of your posted numbers.

    Gigi the 1st 67 spins, top 4 has 5 matches. The way we talked of has 11 hits
     
  11. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Over at RF the Kimo LI topic is going. Yoigo gave 60 numbers.
    Here is the result. Turbo you'll killed it on one number.
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    Now, these numbers meet data, 1-3-5-7-30
    The 16 repeats by spin 40 is close. At 60 spins 27 of the starting have hit once.
    A fair set of spins to me.
    Suppose chief of the GLOAT's will say some shite.
     
  12. jekhb1976

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    cycle 1
    * bet every repeat that comes along.
    * when a repeat hits and in profit...start over.
    * when a repeat hits (3peat) and not in profit, remove that number.
    * continue these steps until in profit or until spin 37.

    cycle 2
    * still not in profit, continue to add all repeats just like in cycle 1.
    * but this time around only remove a repeat when it becomes a 4 hit.
    * continue this for as long as needed to get to a new high.
    * remember, once a number is removed, it will not be added again.
    * keeping track of all the repeats and wich were removed is crucial.

    cycle 3
    * you will find out that if you play this way like i descibed, you will be in profit before the end of the 2nd cycle.
    * only a few session required a 3rd cycle to hit that new high.
    * when in 3rd cycle a repeat can only be removed when it becomes a 5 hitter.


    Test and you will be suprised of the results.
    Sidenote, when in a new cycle the hit will get a plus 1 chip.
    So we start with a chip on each repeater that comes. When in 2nd cycle when the repeat will need two hits to be removed the value will be 2, 3 for 3rd cycle.

    Have fun and be safe.
     
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  13. Gigi666

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    You got the endorsement from the "boss" Jekhb :p

    If cycle 2 is so profitable in your tests, why not skip cycle 1 where your profit will be small and you might build up a significant drawdown?

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    The above one first double hit was not in profit so played until the next one hits.

    And I would probably always stop when 2nd one hits even if not in profit as this can keep drawdowns/losses to a minimum
     
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  14. jekhb1976

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    Hi GIGI,
    It's a very simple yet effective way of playing without too much risk.
    It can be played in many different ways.
    I personaly don't like to wait so i play right away when the first repeat comes, even if that means i suffer a drawdown, i know the ballance will be up eventualy, so i don't mind playing this way.
    And when you get early 3 hits you won't miss out.

    the way i post the method is not the way i personaly play it, well in basic terms yes, but playing this way is only possible behind a terminal not at a live table, because there is always a change you are playing way too many repeats per spin.
    I like to us an alternate universe within my seasion. But online i have played various approaches, around 217 sessions in the last couple of months and only played the 3rd cycle to be in proffit only a handfull of those sessions, around 25-40 sessions, the rest were all done before the 2nd cycle was over, and all sessins ended in profit. But again in a bm setting playing at a live table you have to cut short on repeats, otherwise it is unplayable.
     
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    REPEATER FUN - PART II
    The BM Method
    ---------------------------------------
    I explained in my first post a fun yet effective way to play repeaters, but this is only playable online or at a terminal in a bm casino, not playable at a live table, because like i mentioned before, the number of repeats that can be played will be way too many for a live setting.

    The way i would play it at a live table is as follows;
    THE ALTERNATE UNIVERSE METHOD
    this can be played in 3 ways:

    WAY 1:
    * Wait until a repeat comes, then play that repeat.
    * Restart spincount
    Meaning all numbers out, before the first repeat came will go back to nonhits.
    EXAMPLE:
    7
    19
    27
    3
    12
    27 -----) first repeat

    27 (will be played)
    all other numbers out will be reset.
    12 (this is now not a repeat, because it has been reset when our first repeat came. So it now will be counted as 1.
    28
    36
    25
    4
    1
    12 (This is now a repeat, because it is the first in our new spincount cycle)
    so now we are betting on 27 and 12 and reset the rest.
    (27-12)
    15
    11
    21
    2
    12 -----) Win
    We now are at a new high, so we start all over with the same rules as told above.
    If a hit comes and your not at a new high, we just keep goin' with our repeats and keep adding them.
    reset spincount everytime a new repeat comes along, until in profit and then reset.

    will explain the 2nd method later on.
     
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  16. Gigi666

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    @jekhb1976
    I played exactly as you described for BM casino. You will eventually have to increase the stakes and get into a larger drawdown.

    As for the online play with your basic method, you say you played over 200 sessions, when getting into the 3rd cycle whats the biggest drawdown you have registered ?
     
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    REPEATER FUN - PART III
    The BM Method
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    WAY II

    I have some spare time so i will continue....
    In the second way we will implement the first method into the second one.

    This time around we use the alternate universe method including how many hits a repeat is needed in cycle 1-3 to be removed from our list.

    Overview;
    in cycle 1 we are aiming to win on all numbers that are hit for the 3rd time.
    in cycle 2 we are aiming to win on all numbers that are hit for the 4th time (if needed).
    in cycle 3 we are aiming to win on all numbers that are hit for the 5th time (if needed).

    A number can only be removed from our list (when not at a new high) if they met the above criteria. Each time one of our number is hit in any given cycle but doesn"t meet the above criteria to be removed it will get an additional chip.
    This can be a simple plus 1 or a more agressive progression like 1-2-4 or a 1-3-5 or simple flatbet. (using flat bet you don't know if you reach a new high before the end of the 3rd cycle, more cycles may be needed to reach this. Be careful.)
    Because your are done before spin 111 you are only using a 3 step progression, no more is needed. The more agressive progression, the higher the profit, but also larger drawdowns will show, so a bigger bankroll is also key. I wouldn't go to extreme progressions, just use a +1 or 1-2-4 for a nice profit.
    so now that we have this out of the way, i will post an example of a session i played last night online at a live table using €1 chips, nothing fancy, just a +1 progression while having some fun.

    S001 19
    S002 28
    S003 23
    S004 7
    S005 0
    S006 0 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 0
    S007 17
    S008 28
    S009 1
    S010 12
    S011 27
    S012 21
    S013 1 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 0/1
    S014 32
    S015 35
    S016 35 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 0/1/35
    S017 18
    S018 1 Win and new high -----) reset all

    S001 14
    S002 2
    S003 28
    S004 19
    S005 3
    S006 35
    S007 4
    S008 17
    S009 32
    S010 11
    S011 25
    S012 0
    S013 31
    S014 22
    S015 17 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 17
    S016 24
    S017 1
    S018 12
    S019 34
    S020 13
    S021 24 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 17/24
    S022 14
    S023 10
    S024 19
    S025 35
    S026 19 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 17/24/19
    S027 16
    S028 21
    S029 0
    S030 32
    S031 5
    S032 5 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 17/24/19/5
    S033 33
    S034 6
    S035 18
    END OF CYCLE 1 (no use in playing more spins in a cycle when the payout is less)
    Numbers 17/24/19/5 are our repeats we take over to the 2nd cycle. Now in this cycle a repeat can only be removed when it has 4 hits instead of 3 in the first cycle.
    ------------------------------------------------------ 17/24/19/5
    S036 13
    S037 29
    S038 12
    S039 36
    S040 1
    S041 4
    S042 11
    S043 1 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ------------------------------------------------------ 17/24/19/5/1
    S044 19 Hit (3/4 hit) progression 2
    S045 12
    S046 16
    S047 36
    S049 17 Hit (3/4 hit) progression 2
    S050 1 Hit (3/4 hit) progression 2
    S051 15
    S052 29
    S053 29 (repeat) playing / reset spincount
    ---------------------------------------------------17/24/19/5/1/29
    S054 17 Hit (4/4 hit) able to be removed
    S055 33
    S056 29 Hit (3/4 hit) progression 2
    S057 29 Hit (4/4 hit) able to be removed
    End of seasion. New high.

    the above was a session i did online and was not a difficult one sadly, sure not all sessions will go as smooth, some go into a 3rd cycle with a higher progreasion of 3, and also with more numbers in play. But overall, i never had any problems so far within 217 sessions.

    just play by the rules. reset spincount after a repeat (but keep spins noted within every cycle)
    This is how you know how many hits a number needs before it can be removed (if not at a new high) Only use a 3 step progression (one for every cycle) cycle 1 (3 hit) cycle 2 (4 hit) cycle 3 (5 hit)
    Remove numbers only when they met the criteria.

    I will take this method to a bm live table as soon as it is allowed again in holland.
    any questions, feel free to ask.
    cheers.
    Eddy
     
  18. jekhb1976

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    biggest drawdown so far was 539 euro in 217 sessions. Playing with a 1-2-3 progression using a basebet of €1.
     
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  19. jekhb1976

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    So with a bank between €750-€1000 it should be safe.
     
  20. boyd30

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    Jekhb, looking at the first playexample you gave. You remove a number in first part when it hit. Does that mean you don't bet it on the cycle 2 either? Adding one chip you only do in 2nd and 3rd cycle?
     

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