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Baccarat Reading Randomness for Baccarat

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by gizmotron, May 28, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is a chart of text found on the internet. It represents the results of a shoe. I built a sim just to convert this type of text into a RR chart.

    Example Text:

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    Shoe Number 1
    B,9,7,4,0,5,7,0,x
    B,8,7,4,1,3,8,3,6
    B,8,6,0,8,x,0,6,x
    P,2,8,0,2,x,4,4,x
    B,5,3,4,1,x,0,4,9
    P,0,2,9,1,0,2,0,0
    
    



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    |  B  |  P  |
    |  X  |     | --- 1
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    |  X  |     | --- 3
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    |     |  X  | --- 81
    |  X  |     | --- 83
    
    
    Next I can point out interesting trends and patterns within trends many shoes.
     
  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    For instance hands 1 thru 40 only have two doubles on the player side while the rest are all singles on the weak side.

    In case you are wondering the sim ignores ties.

    After hand 40 the Player side stands up for itself and for the rest of the shoe the results are balanced chaos from a standpoint of using Reading Randomness.
     
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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is the next shoe:

    Code:
    
    |  B  |  P  |
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    |  X  |     | --- 4
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  4. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    If I were playing Roulette I would look for a better column than this grouping.

    From hand 26 you have an almost perfect singles on the weak side for the Banker. There's just that one double.
     
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    Hi Giz. I'm not sure why this popped up in the top of my email as a new post, we'll consign it one of the seven great mysteries.

    I really like your mathematical methodology. I like any mathematical methodology anywhere anytime. It's so rare.

    If I say anything beyond that, I fear anything I say could be misconstrued. There is a dynamic in pubic forum where people judge what you say by what they think you are trying say to the forum...not you!

    This would derail my comments.

    Here I will only say, "more math = GOOD!".

    Pm me if you wish. (new jobs overwhelming, allow a week or so for response)

    ~FK
     
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  6. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Frank, I did my bit for job and worthwhileness. I'm glad that I don't have to push the grindstone up a hill. It is what it is.

    That's interesting seeing singles on the weak side as mathematical. I see them as portions of figure formations that relate to sizes or durations. But that could be seen as even more mathematical. Sure. Hmmm?
     
  7. Jimske

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    oh, geeez. Playing the history. What else is there in a guessing game? The GR8 one likes this. Maybe you should look up ECD's "weighted averages," You'd like that I think. You going to play this side independent or consider both together? I look forward to the predictions!
     

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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Wrong Wrong wrong! I'm not playing the history. I'm playing the now. When a readable coincidence reveals itself for consideration it has the recent past and the current condition of continuing. If that does in fact continue then its future will be exploitable. But only exploitable to the person that invests the starting bet to take off in it. This is what is important to remember in all this history hogwash. Swarms of first attempt bets can work real good or work real bad at different times. Nobody can know this or PREDICT it. You are the one hung up on prediction. I'm not. I'm just searching for the times when first bets winning occurs in swarms.

    Now let's look at what you do. You are playing the ignorant opinionated expert because you don't see this opportunity. "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. Thomas A. Edison "
     
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    LOL " the recent past" is now present and future both? Giz you really do live in the twilight zone. Please continue.
     
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    A lot of negative their jimske, what decides your first bet and reason.
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's OK. You are right up there with the mathZombies.

    What's funny about you is that you don't relate. You can't listen. Your head is full of what you want to see. I'm glad for you. You are so right. Just stay that way, forever.
     
  12. Craps

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    Suppose you found something in RR. Does that mean you have beaten the House? Does that mean you are guaranteed a winner? What makes your RR work ? What makes your RR fail? Without looking at past events, will there be. RR? By looking at past events, how is it not playing the past to determine the future?
    If you want to convince everyone, I give you 20 hands or more on a shoe and you continue to tell me what is next and I post your W/L results one after another.
     
  13. Craps

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    Your RR is just a way to B or P. You will have winning days and losing days. So does other BS method. You are what the Chinese described as When Fire gets into Evil.
     
  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Back to the thread:

    Code:
    
    |  B  |  P  |
    |  X  |     | --- 1
    |     |  X  | --- 2
    |     |  X  | --- 3
    |     |  X  | --- 4
    |  X  |     | --- 5
    |  X  |     | --- 6
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    At hand 35 there's is an absence of singles that goes on for just a little longer than 20+ hands.

    It's easily noticeable. It did continue.

    Now I pointed this out because some people say that they play trends. I just don't think they know that taking one or two net wins off this small trend is worth it. If you can make enough off of three to five net wins per day of playing then these little pockets of opportunity are more than enough. It's my personal; opinion that Baccarat players don't think like this.
     

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    Giz.Do you know the best way to describe your RR to us? It's easy . Instead of showing a long list of hands and analyzing it, just post some hands and STOP and tell us what the next one is and why. That way we can all follow better.
     
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  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've done that to death in other places. My goal here is to show basic trends and patterns.

    I know many players don't see this way because they would have talked about it if they had.

    Singles on the weak side and absence of singles are just two out of hundreds of formations worth exploiting.
     
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  17. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Let's try this another way. You point out if you can find a trend or pattern that continues for about 20 hands or more. I'm just posting right down the shoes from my data I downloaded. This is the fourth shoe:

    Code:
    
    P,1,4,4,7,0,4,0,0
    B,7,0,3,4,x,1,9,0
    B,4,2,8,6,x,0,2,0
    T,5,5,7,6,2,3,2,0
    B,6,2,1,1,4,9,3,0
    P,2,9,0,2,x,9,0,x
    B,4,0,0,4,x,0,0,0
    P,7,8,9,8,x,3,0,5
    B,4,2,4,0,x,2,0,0
    B,7,0,5,2,x,0,0,0
    B,5,0,5,8,2,8,2,0
    B,9,1,3,6,x,0,1,x
    P,0,4,2,0,8,4,0,0
    B,3,0,3,0,0,9,1,0
    P,6,8,6,0,x,7,6,5
    B,4,2,3,9,2,0,0,2
    P,2,8,2,0,0,0,4,4
    T,4,4,8,6,x,6,9,9
    B,8,3,4,4,x,2,1,x
    B,7,2,0,7,x,1,0,1
    P,7,8,7,0,x,9,2,7
    P,4,9,0,4,x,4,5,x
    T,7,7,7,0,x,5,7,5
    P,3,6,8,6,9,0,6,x
    B,4,2,4,0,x,3,9,0
    T,8,8,6,2,x,8,0,x
    P,6,7,0,5,1,6,1,x
    P,3,9,4,9,0,4,6,9
    P,7,8,0,7,x,4,9,5
    B,1,0,0,1,0,8,7,5
    B,5,1,5,0,x,0,0,1
    P,4,7,4,0,0,9,8,x
    P,5,8,1,3,1,3,0,5
    T,7,7,5,2,x,0,7,x
    B,4,2,3,1,0,5,0,7
    B,9,3,0,3,6,9,1,3
    B,9,2,4,5,x,5,7,x
    B,9,3,3,7,9,9,4,0
    B,9,8,0,9,x,0,8,x
    B,9,3,9,0,x,3,0,x
    B,7,0,0,7,x,2,0,8
    P,2,5,2,0,0,4,1,0
    P,4,5,0,0,4,7,6,2
    B,9,8,7,2,x,8,0,x
    T,6,6,6,9,1,6,0,x
    B,9,0,1,8,x,0,0,x
    P,0,7,9,2,9,0,7,x
    B,9,7,7,4,8,0,7,x
    T,6,6,0,2,4,0,0,6
    B,7,5,9,8,x,1,3,1
    B,6,0,5,6,5,2,8,0
    P,1,6,3,2,6,3,3,x
    P,0,2,9,3,8,7,4,1
    T,9,9,0,9,x,9,0,x
    B,5,3,8,7,x,0,0,3
    P,2,6,3,9,0,2,4,x
    P,6,9,0,6,x,6,3,x
    P,2,7,5,7,0,1,6,x
    P,0,3,0,0,0,2,8,3
    P,1,2,6,6,9,0,0,2
    P,7,9,0,7,x,9,0,x
    B,8,3,0,8,x,8,5,x
    B,7,4,3,0,4,6,8,0
    B,6,2,2,4,0,7,8,7
    P,2,8,0,0,2,0,5,3
    P,6,9,5,1,x,8,1,x
    T,7,7,2,5,x,0,0,7
    B,7,4,6,1,x,8,7,9
    T,7,7,1,6,x,0,3,4
    B,7,2,7,0,x,0,0,2
    P,7,9,1,6,x,4,5,x
    P,6,8,6,0,x,0,3,5
    B,5,0,5,0,x,1,0,9
    B,8,1,5,3,x,6,5,x
    P,2,9,2,0,x,8,1,x
    P,6,7,0,0,6,0,7,x
    B,8,0,0,8,x,0,0,x
    B,8,0,8,0,x,0,0,x
    P,3,6,0,5,8,1,5,x
    P,0,9,0,0,x,6,3,x
    B,9,6,4,5,x,3,3,x
    B,9,1,4,7,8,1,0,0
    
    
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Oops, forgot to transform it.

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  19. tommac147

    tommac147 Member

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    What,s this we can follow your the one with the problem.
     
  20. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Took the words right out of my mouth. Make a couple of bets and tell us what you bet and why.
     
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