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Roulette Where are Forum's most experienced members?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Sparky, Feb 4, 2016.

  1. Sparky

    Sparky Member Founding Member

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    Does anybody have knowledge about where are Forum's most experienced members?
    Are they active somewhere else? Did all of them leave a (Forum's) ship?
    Some of them still post a little bit, but other are silent...

    MrJ, GLC, Atlantis, Ego, Colbster, Kattila, Winkel, Chrisbis, BuffaloWizard, Superman, Ewarwoowar, TheLaw, 6th-Sence, Hermes, Maestro, Warrior, Fripper, Twisteruk, Sogget, Gizmotron, Malcop, UglyBob, DDarko, Spin4Fun, A3on, Agesta, Stepkevh, Marivo, Le_Chiffre, MrOre, Ophis, Skakus, XXVV, Robeenhuut, SamNL, ScoobyDoo, Denzie, Chris555, Amk, Still, GARNabby, AlbertoJonas, Drazen, Azim, Dane...

    Just a thought.

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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    MrJ ? Who's that ? Grins
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    "XXVV"...roflol. He writes the most absurd stuff on the bet selection forum.
     
  4. mr j

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  5. petespin

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    i can colclude that from the above list the members that are not active
    anymore is becoz they are tired of loosing.... lol
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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  7. mr j

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    I hate when I see this crap. Because someone posts less, that means they are losing (not loosing) more?

    Maybe they are winning more, possible? Very busy with other things in their life, also possible.

    Myself, tired of reading (responding) to the SAME old BS....posting less etc etc. Could be many other reasons, even death(?)

    Ken
     

  8. Spider

    Spider Active Member Founding Member

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    This. Like a few guys on here I have been studying roulette for a long time (about 20 years) so I also know what won't work, and when you look on forums that's pretty much all you see. Now that's fine cos, like Ken said, we have all been there. I don't really want to comment on it any more though. You have to go through that stuff yourself to learn.
     
  9. petespin

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    well, if someone else posted would be different ,but becoz of me u really pissed off, then tell me what are u doing here? u still looking for the hg ,or to help others with your systems that u posted hundred years ago, anyway this thing must stop ,if u dont like my posts ,dont respond ,its simple , ignore me as i ignore u , u re not a mod here !
     
  10. mr j

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    Not a mod here.

    Not yet, stay tuned.

    Ken
     
  11. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Dying is no excuse to not post !!!
     
  12. mr j

    mr j Well-Known Member

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    You and I will still be posting from beyond the grave....50 years from now and STILL posting!

    Ken
     
  13. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm going to set up a time-released bot that posts as me well into the future.
    2034 Thread title : Holy Grail found
    "Wait for trigger... 7 odd numbers in a row then start progression on every even low number for 10 spins
    1-2-4-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024 then switch to another casino."

    Damn, it went off early.
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    The trigger and regression to the mean game. I can't count the number of times it's been foolishly touted as part of the holy grail.

    I created a post for it on another forum... not too long ago.
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    The "Trigger" Game

    You have a system that relies on the outside ECs. The wheel doesn't have a zero, and you're using an up as you lose progression.

    Your triggers are based on waiting for a miss of five reds... before you begin betting that black will hit within the next five spins, while using your progression.

    How long must you wait for five reds to miss before you can begin to bet? Answer, the chance that a red will hit in five spins is 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/ 32. So you'll have to wait around for about 32 spins before you can bet.

    Now that you've waited, what is the chance that you won't hit on one of the next five spins? Spin one miss 1/2 x spin two miss 1/2 x spin three miss 1/2 x spin four miss 1/2 x spin five miss 1/2 (1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2) = 1/ 32. Or put another way, this means that your progression will fail about once every 32 spins.... hmmm interesting.

    Summarizing so far: You stand around for about 32 spins waiting to bet... and find that your progression fails about every 32 spins.

    So you think, well this just isn't going work, so you decide to increase your trigger to 10 spins without a hit.

    Now how long must you stand around before you will likely see 10 misses? 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/1024 This means you're going to have to stand around for about 1024 spins before you can begin to bet.

    Now that you've waited all this time, surely your progression will be less likely to lose, right? Wrong! The chance that you're progression will fail is still 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/2 = 1/ 32. This means that every time you wait around for 1024 spins your progression will still fail about once in every 32 attempts.

    The big question now is, why are you waiting? The probability of winning didn't change, so what's the purpose of the triggers? Regardless off how long you wait to bet, your progression still fails about once in every 32 attempts in the above trigger game.

    I've noticed that many of you are running simulations... trying to figure out what the best trigger is that you should use. Each time you run your sims with a trigger, all you're doing is subdividing the number of spins on which you're actually betting. If you're betting on fewer spins, then your system will fail less frequently. However, if you compare the same number of spins on which bets were actually made for each of the triggers, then you'll find that the five trigger fails just as frequently as the six trigger, and the seven trigger, and the eight trigger, and the nine trigger, and the ten trigger, etc....and even the 1,000 trigger. Regardless of the trigger's length, you're not increasing your success rate. In other words, when you play the trigger game, you're only fooling yourself.
     
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  15. TurboGenius

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    Exactly !
    For God's sake - why won't people understand this.
     
  16. petespin

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    dont tell me ...iam freezing , well guys like winkel , gizmotron , the roulette dealer died recently flatino, are respectfull by any means ,coz they really help the public with their posts,systems, and imo only the AP guys have the right to speak about beating roulette i consider em pros , and u guys sitting here and wonder if the trigger game is valid or not! wow!
     
  17. mr j

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    There is no trigger...sit down...start.

    Ken
     
  18. petespin

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    if i call em 'right conditions' then is it ok ? even OUR AP friends wait for them, and then start their attacks , these conditions ,if u like, changed inbetween spins , is it so hard to understand it all of u ? its not has to do with complicated math formulas ,its just common sense ....
     
  19. petespin

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    the one that i wanted to see on the above list and i dont see him is nathan detroit .. pretty smart guy...
     
  20. REV

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    Interesting post Caleb,all correct,no matter how u attack roulette it will surprise you and eat your hard ernt cash,lol......Frequency dropping is the closest thing ive seen to any holy grail,regarding a trigger,no 2 groups of numbers can act the same so there might be a way someone could use this to there advantage and stop any long progressions,the fact that sleepers are said to be evil lol.i find funny,they can be used,there heading for a repeat at some stage.Working out when is tricky lol.
     

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