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Roulette I've seen a new absurd claim that the gambler's fallacy isn't.....

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone, Oct 16, 2021.

  1. DutchCrown

    DutchCrown Active Member

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    And here we are, still goin' in circles. Oh boy!
    When do you all accept that you can make predictions from past spins! It's just basic logic.
    But accepting, is the hardest part.
     
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  2. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Take it to a casino and get rich then. Go get that Nobel prize. This is what is known as a baloney festival.
     
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  3. DutchCrown

    DutchCrown Active Member

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    The very basic of using past spins to calculate future results is this....

    Spin the demon wheel 37 times, note all the numbers that have shown during these spins plus all the numbers that haven't shown.

    Now i'm looking in the past (last 37 spins) and i can tell you for 100% that this chain of numbers won't ever repeat itself during the course of the next 37 spins.
    Everyone who will tell me this isn't true that this is possible, should see a doctor asap!
    You won't ever, ever see this happening! The chances that this will occur are so astronomical low, that it's easy to say, it's impossible.
     

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  4. DutchCrown

    DutchCrown Active Member

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    spin 43, damn right again. how is this even possible? didn't they all say that it was impossible to use past spins to predict future outcomes????
    Must be magic at work here!
    oh no wait, it can't be random? can it? must be a bias wheel.
     

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  5. DutchCrown

    DutchCrown Active Member

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    A festival for sure, to see everyone running in circles over and over again without stopping half way and say, damn this isn't goin' nowhere, i need to try looking at this in a different way.
    Well i do go to the casino 5 days a week for the past 2,5 years and never had a single day where i returned home without profit.
    So nah, you all keep at this, not my problem.
    Just funny to see, nothing has changed around here all this time.
     
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  6. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    Dutchcrown,

    I wanna know if you dont mind, how much your:
    - session bankroll per day
    - target win

    I know from your story you dont ever experience with no profit.

    So you dont have stop loss ?
     
  7. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    Dutchcrown,

    One more thing. How many average hours you play the game per day ?

    Thanks before
     
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  8. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    In unit size. Not in currency.

    Thanks
     
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  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Time to eat your lunch:

    I created a sim that does 100 trials of the first 38 spins followed by the next 38. It stops as soon as the first win takes place on each of the 100 trials played. It reports how many spins it took for the second set of spins for an item from the first 38 that did not hit to hit in the second 38. I ran it several times. The sequence of death occurred in every 100 trials. Most the time it was around 14 to 15 times before the repeat occurred. But this trial took 21. So you would need a progression of 22 steps to beat it. That's around 12 numbers in the group that did not hit in the previous 38 spins before.

    You can forget flat betting because even without a progression it gets killed.

    Code:
    on mouseUp
       put ""  into field "mainText"
       repeat with x = 1 to 100
          put ""  into jackThis
          put "" into holdListNoHits
          repeat with i = 1 to 38
             put random(38) into hSpin
             put "X" after line hSpin of jackThis
          end repeat
          repeat with j = 1 to 38
             put line j of jackThis into zap
             if zap = "" then 
                put j & "," after holdListNoHits
             end if
          end repeat
          put holdListNoHits into zing
          repeat with y = 1 to 38
             put random(38) into hSpin
             if hSpin is among the items of zing  then
                put "Won on spin number -- " after field "mainText"
                put y & return after field "mainText"
                exit repeat
             end if
          end repeat
       end repeat
    end mouseUp
    
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Tell me how to make this win and I will program it.
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Roulette EC are also 100 % luck and 0 strategy . Only MM matters in the final result .


    EC are for placing a bet bet but not for " playing" a game .
     
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  12. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    There are other biases besides wheel.
     
  13. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    Roulette outcomes are random meaning independent and unbiased.

    It means everything with the math of roulette.

    MedianJoe is correct.

    If you can't explain how you exploit the math then there's no edge.

    Sorry guys, I have to deliver the truth.
     
  14. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    What I am saying is .. despite those things & precisely because of those things ..

    It like medianjoe is figuratively saying -- in soccer .. yeah, but the ball is round! & the goal rectangular!
    & no matter how you turn the ball around its still round, its shape doesn't change. & if I take it off the stadium & bring it back its still round. & if I put the big screen behind it its still round. & if .. in whatever million ways & examples he says ... its still round.

    Yeah, & so what .. despite & precisely because of that .. when I kick the ball it lands in the goal.
     

  15. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Further, the results are random & something is biased .. & its not the wheel.

    What's biased? Where's the skewness? How do you identify it & quantify it?

    & can you use that data produced to give you enough precision to constitute sufficient advantage on an occasional, but on that occasion with pauses placing a wider coverage bet, a recurring 3-spin ST bet --when the game asks for it only as a requirement to close it with nominal positive?
     
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  16. Median Joe

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    You started it.;)
     
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  17. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I said what I wished to say .. but your comment shows me you're kindergarten caliber.
    What you winking at me anyway, thinking I am your friend or smth !?

    But you're echoing the same thing over & over again - parading with something that ain't even your work or conclsion ; never getting beyond ..using it in your favor to consistently profit. As I said worm, tracing someone else lines decades if not hundred yrs old & feeding your .. you know what.
     
  18. Median Joe

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    My point was that you guys have been regurgitating the same stuff for YEARS, never seeming to learn anything. Your systems never worked, and they never will, but you continue to believe the SAME nonsense decade after decade. Who was it said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting different results? You keep regurgitating nonsense, and we keep regurgitating the facts back to you. System junkies aren't the only ones who read the forums. Get it?
     
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  19. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    In the next 200years money management still remain the magic sauce guessing the "trend". This is a gambling forum full of veterans.
     
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  20. TurboGenius

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    Yup, never learned a thing. Systems never work.

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