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TurboGenius Gambler's Fallacy (absurd ?) Proof.

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2021.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Agreed.
    I know I sure made up my mind. But that was made up beforehand.
    If magical voodoo powers worked - that would be very impressive to see.
    But it's gone now, the party is over. The luck ran out.
    I saw he said that he was first at Steve's "game" which is good but not proof sadly.
    There are too many bugs in that game and ways for people to cheat.
    Priyanka (spelled wrong ?) did it for quite a while and got away with it until I figured out
    how they were doing it and Steve put at end to it. At least that way... there are other ways
    to trick the game into making it appear you won I'm sure. Not reliable at all.
    I'd say RS is the best way to test, you can reset or start new accounts - but I've worked
    with the person who runs the site to remove possible ways to cheat.
    The leader there hasn't played in a year now.. (wonder why).
    The second place clearly took advantage of the cheat (Nov 30 2019 games) and now
    won't dare play again. 3rd place had 1 lucky game and now can't play again or they will drop off
    the list lol. From there down it seems like normal results.
    Should I start an account and play with nothing but fallacy and make it to first place ?
    That would be interesting.
     
  2. Benas

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    For me is interesting one, for example one day comes and you understand that if you will be lissend to Sir Anyone and will learn method which he play - you can take say 2000$ daily, instead all talks here...

    I here ask not only Turbo, but every other...

    Looks that now you all lost such possibility...not pitty for that?

    You could have 2000$ daily, but choosed talks in forum...attacks on sir Anyone..., for me that looks strange...
     
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  3. Klausy

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    Yeah look turbo, I have no beef with you. All I’m saying is that in my mind, without any doubt whatsoever, precognition has been proved publicly. If you can similarly prove a winning method on RSim it would end alot of pointless arguments on this forum.
    Cheers
     
  4. Mako

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    The first thing I actually wondered as I watched the example was whether the accuracy can be improved on the number chosen to be removed after a repeat hits within the location.

    MI, -STD, current spins without a hit at that point, fewest total number of hits on that number for the session, etc, there must be a better way to "choose" which of the selections gets removed to improve the precision...
     
  5. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have no idea what that means. I've always said Sir Anyone wins doing what he does. To take advantage of a wheel that has
    some malfunction is well and good - and good for him. I know all that work pays off. But to be honest if it did so well as
    you and others claim - the very last place I would be is on a roulette forum bickering with system players.
    I would make a killing and honestly would care less what kooky system players are doing. Why be here ?
    I know why but it will never be admitted. Those same "AP" players want an easier way, a way that works anywhere
    without the hassle of traveling around hunting unicorns and recording all the spins required to verify a wheel is
    actually playable. Then the casino can just take countermeasures of course and that is wasted time.
    Anyway - despite the amazing results, the AP players are here reading posts about systems. Not that is
    what looks strange.

    Indeed. I just decided to remove any number that hadn't appeared yet - I figured that way they would have less to
    point to and say I hand picked something. I'm sure the demonstration was one of the least profitable ways to pick
    what number to remove or keep playing and it still worked. MI "should" work great for this since it works already
    as-is and this might be a big improvement on it even more.

    I'd like to think so too, but I know better from experience. I've heard every reason why I won.
    Not enough spins, I hand picked results, I cheated somehow, still not enough spins. Hell, Steve
    even wants millions of spins to qualify as proof of something. This is absurd since there are only
    so many things that can happen - and they can be simulated in 1,000 spins or less. But to put
    up such a nonsense "challenge" is to admit there are ways - but no one would put in the effort
    of millions of spins to win his measly prize.
    But to respond - being in first publicly won't mean a thing for proof. The same comments from the
    same people will just hurl in. I might do it though. It takes time and that time is partially wasted
    because it sways no one from their opinions.
    Cheers. (and no beef here either - we can all believe what we want to believe.. but see above -
    no one with such powers would waste a moment on a gambling forum concerned with system players)
     
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  6. Benas

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    For me that is absolutelly not strange, because i know why that happend...
    How you cant understand that he is here simply for fun ? Something similar like say wait for something , or drive in train or bus and think what now to do and - oh - can write something funny in forum!
    He wins much more than I wrote...
     
  7. Klausy

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    Yep that’s fair enough.
    Full disclosure, I’m from the same school of thought as precogm and spend a lot of time in that field. Systems aren’t my thing at all but I can appreciate the time and effort people put into them and in general I like the subject matter, that’s why I’m here
     
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  8. Raf

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    Hi TG,

    fun this simulator ...... I started 15 days ago and I'm 9 in the ranking.

    It doesn't seem difficult, what do you think?

    Regards, Raf
     
  9. TurboGenius

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    That's great ! Keep on rising up to the top !
    It would be nice to see people from the forums in the top 10
     
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    "AP"players, mathboyz posers, naysayers the whole lot are looking for the easy way. That's why they are provoking.

    If they had asked nicely I might consider to reveal some. But with such attitude it's a complete turn off.
     
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    If you want, it is also easy to miss a session to make it as casual as possible.

    ;););):D
     
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    Just asking, does precog work for you? Work as in you can collect money from actual b&m setting. Another way to put it, have you collected anything from the casino?

    I think not. That's why you are here.
     
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  13. Luckyfella

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    The drawdown is way too big. I will never gamble such a system, not good enough for me. I will not play a system that requires a large bank roll. I will not play a system with long session. I will not play a system which require complicated real time tracking.

    1. Session bankroll - 12units
    2. Max drawdown = stop loss = session bankroll
    3. Optimal drawdown = stop session trigger = 25% bankroll(average)
    4. Session profit target - 12units
    5. Max session - 90spins

    Either I hit profit target, or lose bankroll or optimal drawdown that I change to another wheel. Every aspect calculated based on math.
     
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  14. Luckyfella

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    Nobody gives a damn if any of us did the proof. So what. Who cares, really.

    What they are looking for is handout. Post on here the system that help them collect real cash from the casino, they kiss your a*s*. SirAnyone included.
     
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  15. TurboGenius

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    :) Just shake it off, learn from mistakes and drive on.
    That's what's nice about simulations and testing ideas.
     
  16. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Unfortunately, there's just no supporting math, physics, or proof of concept for what your doing.

    For now, forget about the little short term charts and graphs. Why should the method work? Why should it overcome the house edge? Where's the logic?
     
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  17. Luckyfella

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    Tell you the logic so you can make easy money. Lmao!
     
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    .. ain't Turbo talking about how variance corrects itself .. is alive -- & so does the system too




    Now loop it .. till you see the parallels, similarities → crossovers, adaptation.[/Quote][/QUOTE]
     
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  19. thereddiamanthe

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    DrTalos uses the attack (instead of purely tracking eg.37 spins)
    till the "statistical" advantage shows up cashing in on the way --

    with minimum possible betting.. similar to Luckyfella's preference =lowest drawdowns, but (no pauses) continuous betting only .. thereof some slight progression ..

    & 0.3u/spin profit ratio .. 150-300u bankroll for avg of 300 spins to 100u.
    + a double reserve bankroll in the pocket for worst sessions topping up.



    .. that's for a jumping board from me.
     
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  20. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Why do you need 37 spins? Why not just five, or one?
     
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