TurboGenius Gambler's Fallacy (absurd ?) Proof.

I'm pretty sure that the imbalance goes back to balance in different numbers of spins each time. Is it possible to stay there to take advantage of the imbalance for 1000 or 2000 spins?

 

Correct, DSAA.

They only have to be catching up, which they do.
After their first appearance, ensuring a not pointless investment of units =effective drawdowns reduction, some of them actually do.
A correct number or amount of them played ensures enough of them actually do in the still acceptable game to positive length.

How's my English .. getting better?

 

Whatever keeps turning does that in revolutions, ignore the actual wheel-spin for now.
Bigger picture.

What else is 'revolutionary' ?

 

or flows transitioning one into another .. unhits in general taking place of those bet before instead.

 

It doesnt matter, let them. All we ever see is games played with a few hundred spins. I have dozens of them too, also with a positive graph going upwards. Play a couple of 10k spins with the same system and then it will show 1:37 it always will. You can bet on that!

They are even reluctant to do test with random numbers to see if there is a difference, none of them has even tried that... I wonder why... Living in lala land must be a wonderful place to live in!

 

Playing fewer numbers after the first actual hit, or preferably fewer-number-positions ensures keeping bets amounts & drawdowns ultimately at minimum + recoverable (meanwhile awaiting those congested with appearances intervals, even if temporary only), ensures getting better payout on the potential consequent hit .. out of so many appearances that the number(s) actually produces within its median constraints --

wide/focused/wide/focused .. breathing.

 

There is no logic, there are only graphs of a few 100 spins. Always those graphs never graphs of 100.000 spins... I wonder why...

 

On the surface the question looks simple. When in fact it's a very difficult puzzle beyond most people.

This explains why most people wrote it can't be done. What they wrote is correct. For majority of the people.

I know one wise person who knows the answer or part of. He wrote about it many years ago. Back then I wasn't paying attention. Recently he understands it better. Thumbs up, you are correct.

If he reads my posts carefully which he does he gets the complete answer. I wrote it for him in return. For the help he gave me so much in my journey. Wouldn't have made it so far without your help. Thank you buddy G.

I don't see any point posting on forum unless there's some new things crop up.

 

I have one, but a very big question for those who "know". But before that, I would like to talk about my own. Many people know that if I start writing, it's a lot, but it's not much use. Therefore, I will try to be brief.
Reading all this, I feel offended for myself, because back in early July, after jackhb tried to tell us something, although I thought he just cheated in the end, but it turns out not, I wrote back then that after hundreds and hundreds of tests for hot numbers over the year, I came to the conclusion that the only way to win on hot is when the number gets hot, and not when it's already hot. And it turns out I was right all this time, reading what they write here. A like from Turbo would then have inspired me, but he didn't do that, which of course makes me sorry for the lost time. Although I did a lot of different tests about it then, but I couldn't find it. I didn't do many tests in the summer because of my illness. I returned in September to tests. And I even tested not hot, but something else, and there were good results, and just at that time I came up with the idea to test in the future what Turbo would then post about 4 parts. And I would have done it more than a month ago, but soon after that Turbo laid out another idea that is damn complicated, but supposedly winning. A month went to the landfill. Although there is still something left. But nevertheless, it's a pity that I have very little time... Okay, this is about the patient. I just talked it out.
This week I still managed to test what I wanted a month ago, and this is just connected with part 4. And yes, that day I actually saw what I thought I had found, which I wrote about on the forum. It doesn't quite work out to the end yet, but the essence is very clear. Something that has never happened before. And everything adds up almost into one whole, which is written everywhere here and in different versions. But, I will say again, there is no complete success. Only some kind of completion is missing. So I saw something in the messages and decided to ask. I also wanted to say that some may know that before this forum I studied only Vaddy, 5-6 years old, and I have not found answers to most of his remarks and questions. But when studying Turbo, I always compared it with him somewhere. And I understood that the essence is the same, maybe only the ways are different. He also wrote that there are many ways, and I can see it now. So, this week I also remembered what Vaddy wrote (I know him almost by heart), but nothing really came together, but when I saw what I discovered the other day, I started remembering Vaddy again, and almost everything that I didn't even understand at all over the years began to make sense.
So, I can't get out of my head that if I was right all this time about hot, then maybe I'm right now, and what always pops up in my head. And I see it all the time in tests. And what Lucky just wrote. And damn it - this is what Eugene also wrote, and I've been thinking about him lately, and then just appeared again on the forum (Hi Eugene, glad to see you again). How it all adds up to one. So, the QUESTION I would like to ask the "who know" to understand whether I am right this time or not:
Why do you play in a b&m casino, why not online, etc. Or more precisely and more specifically, why don't you play in the RNG. Why do you all say that the RNG can cheat you. And I am asking this against the background of what you are currently discussing about how numbers ALWAYS return to balance. Yes, I read what you wrote about the RNG, but nevertheless, the RNG cannot fail to comply with the law 2/3. And there you can spin roulette with thousands of spins, that if, as you say, the number will return sooner or later, then you can win easier than a b&m casino? So why?
Thanks for reading, patience and hopefully an answer.

 

One fallacy on top of another. This one's called Hasty Generalization.

 

Turbo said in another thread:

This is the eternal problem of those who believe that past numbers point to future numbers: how far back do you look? There is no answer, so you have to resort to an arbitrary and subjective number, which makes the theory inconsistent even on its own terms. Apparently, the force that determines what numbers will come out next don't exist before YOU get to the table, but when you do, and start charting, there it is. Then, when you leave, it somehow knows that it isn't needed for YOU (but of course, it springs into life again when the player after you takes his seat). So you get to the table, record the first 37 spins and are left with 12 unhit, say 0,3,4,7,13,15,16,23,29,31,34,36. Now, most of those numbers may have just enjoyed a terrific winning streak, immediately BEFORE you arrived. But of course, in your world that means nothing (it's someone else's problem); you still expect them to become active in the next cycle. Not to mention that others at the table may be playing completely different systems (based on hot numbers). Why don't they all have a discussion before playing so that they don't contradict each other, otherwise the force will get very confused!

This is the kind of absurdity which results when you believe in the gambler's fallacy, and that's another reason why we know it's a fallacy.

Say what you like about us mathboyz, but at least we're consistent.

 

It's my personal opinion that online casinos cheat their spins. Just my opinion.

So play where you trust, chose your b&m casino carefully. Do due diligence.

 

Exactly !


If on the same wheel play two AP players - they will play aproximatelly the same numbers, no matter that one started to look at wheel half hour earlier.

If the same wheel will play two two Turbo system users - they will play different numbers depending on time when they started to look at table...
Do system players understand what that means ?

Why independent AP players , who not know each other and who play in different methods still came to the same numbers ???

And why system players - will play different numbers. Can you explain this ? Can you say which situation is better ?

Here is the same situattion like evaluation say some painting - one picture like 500 , but 500 not like, another picture like all 1000... You feel difference ?

 

Track 2 cycles of 37 spins.
Number of unhit numbers left after 74 spins will be around 5-9.
Only a small pool of numbers to play your session.
Not have to worry about 37 numbers, only a few.
Play them once they show up for the first time after 74 spins.
Use a possitive progression on a number until that number shows profit, then remove that number and continue with the rest.
Do this until you have a new high, then reset everything, no need to carry on, just start over.
Keep track in wich cycle your in, this is important because you need to keep track how many hits a number is below it's average. No need to play a number and wait until it is balanced again, profit, skip that number.

nice and easy system wich always wins.

 

HG? yep, if you have the time.

 

Max number of spins before new high? well, i never went beyond 200 spins, yet.

 

What's a work day for you regarding hours?

Normal : 8
max spins playable in 8 hours: 480
Normal pay per day : between €75-€100

Reset at every profit point, until daily target has been reached. go home.

Or set a lower profit point, your call.
5 days a week is around 1500 and €2000 payroll.

 

the higher the stakes, the sooner you can go home, i play with €10 chips, so usualy my day is over within 2-3 hours.

 

Bankroll?
well i always go with 1000x you starting bet.

€1 (€1000 bank) only playable behind terminal.
€5 (€5000 bank) playable at table.
€10 (€10000 bank) ,,
€25 (€25000 bank) ,,

l prefer playing behind a terminal to be honest.
Because no one is watching what 'm doin'
Can use pen and paper.

 

And WHEN do they catch up? A few spins from now? A hundred? A thousand? YOU NEVER know when exactly! And the time it takes to "catch" up you will lose at 1:37. Even a group of numbers that are behind will lead to 1:37 there is no advantage!!!

You are all welcome to the excel file so you can test it yourself...