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Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by thereddiamanthe, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    DrTalos, after yeas of commenting on others threads, decided to make his own thread -- which outlined the most important/essential things in making of 'his' system .. or in other words are regarded in making of one ..

    Have a look at its structure & constitution
    https://www.roulettelife.com/index.php/topic,2149.0.html which in my opinion is the best way to express all the relevant ideas cohesively, choherently & in unison in one place with greatest impact.

    Perhaps @TwoUp, @Luckyfella , @TurboGenius this would be an ideal way, an ideal form;
    in which all the non-supportive comments are as per @Shank simply ingnored
    persistently carrying on on/with the red herring.
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

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    Btw, crazies are among us, me being one of them ..
     
  3. Shank

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    That's what I've been asking publicly and personally from the guys you mentioned.

    I see that @TurboGenius does his own thing and doesn't care about the negative comments. That is great. We all know how far he goes back in the game. That's a sign of consistency. A friendly recommendation would be asking him to start a thread with enough material for those who want to put in the hard work and do the research publicly. We just need facts that hold true throughout the course of the game, no matter how crazy the variance is.

    @Luckyfella , I know you very well. You have been getting bashed in all the forums. People cannot stand different mindsets these days. You want to share with others what you find exciting, but at the same time, you are emotionally involved with the comments you get. You might think you will be giving it away by sharing ideas on public forums, but you are missing one important point: It's already out there! These guys you waste your energy on won't be paying any attention anyway. So let the party begin! TurboGenius has been sharing for a decade now, and the same guys ignore the points he makes.

    @TwoUp , you are a very resourceful person. You seem to have a great background in both math and the game. You can easily waste it trying to convince those who don't give a flying f**k at the end of the day, or you can spark up those who need your guidance. It's [obviously] up to you.

    Come on, guys! Let the next wave begin!
     
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  4. Shank

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    To be honest, I'd love to see @Raf start a thread too!
     
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  5. thereddiamanthe

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  6. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    You know I get bashed in ALL forums.

    What wrong have I done to deserve this bashing?

    I wrote on Steve's forum to ask those members who feel that there's a space for proper conversation and discussion about our roulette opinions, experience and discovery whatever that may be.

    Nobody supported my call. Zero.

    I stand alone take all that bashing.

    Why should I continue?

    I wrote my story laying out how I failed.
    The entire WhatsApp group of veteran members admitted we can't find the winning bet. Competent coders among us. Tried everything possible. Found nothing. Quit.

    I finally found the breakthrough. In physics.

    I wrote about it.
    I was clear in my reference.

    I got bashed for telling that on forums.

    Wtf, telling how to win got me the bashing.

    Tell me, why should I continue posting?

    You wrote I got emotional.

    I was not emotional because of the personal attacks.

    I got fed up because the bashing and insinuation messed up the message I tried to relay. It wasted my effort. That's what I'm mad about.

    These mathboyz think their naysaying is correct.

    For someone like me who truly understand random spins, I can bash any systems betting to shreds. My naysaying is more toxic and convincing then MJ, SirAnyone and Benas put together.

    Do I do such rude bashing?

    No.

    Have I bashed in an indirect, obtuse and polite way.

    Yes. Read my comments carefully.

    Which do you prefer, straight in the face or gentle hints?

    I learnt one thing after active participation on forums.

    Most of you are losers.
    Most of you are angry and frustrated.
    Most of you have given up hope.
    Most of you stopped believing there's a way.

    There's NONE who found the winning systems bet. NONE.

    I know. You can't bluff me.

    I am THE ONLY person who know.

    Now if you were me and you want to help without giving out entirely what would you do?

    I get all sorts of emails.

    I read them.
    But I don't reply to them.
    I get scolded for not replying.

    If I entertain one request what about the rest?

    I know ALL of you got it wrong.

    Tell me if you were me what would you do?
     
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  7. Luckyfella

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    You wrote it's out there already.

    Yes and no.

    Incomplete. Far from complete.

    When it's far from complete the edge is small or non-existent, exposed to negative variance that kill bankroll.

    That's why large sample testing show no edge.

    At best the impact from outlier variance may be limited. But still exposed to the roll from hell.

    There's NONE posted on forum that's good enough. By my standards.

    If there were you guys won't be searching still.

    TRD started a new thread.

    I gave the correct neighbours.

    Can you guys find the answer?

    I have written that you guys work together.
    Do try to pretend to be cleverer.
    Sorry, you are not.
    Work TOGETHER!!!

    Learn to solve ONE problem then you get the deeper understanding about random spins.

    Start with ONE!!!!
     
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  8. Mako

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    Luckyfella, Shank's rent is due in like two weeks, come on man!!

    In reality, no one is going to disclose anything further, because it doesn't need to be disclosed. That's why the newer threads descend into arguments back and forth...not because of distraction, or "nay-sayers", but because the creators of successful play styles feel they've already left enough information for those interested to take action.

    No idea how CHT plays, that's unique to him. Lucky claims to have figured out that exact play style also, despite to my knowledge CHT not telling anyone about it outside of a small private group he, ricky, gordon, and others particpate in. If Lucky has it, great, if not, also great. Either way, there are other approaches that do work, that win more often than they lose, and with discipline and correct MM can keep a player in the green.

    Not "holy grails" or "constant winning bets". But sound methods that leverage basic probability in the player's favor more often than not.

    Shank, as I've recommended before, get to work. Stop posting, start reading.

    I would start in Turbo's section and read every post ever written by everyone who participated, all forum members in the threads. Then read them again. And then again.

    You will get something out of it that allows you to develop your own winning style of play. No doubt in my mind. I've done it, others have done it, you can do it.

    Again, not some magical Vaddi/Dyksexlic/Priyanka magical can't-lose nonsense. But styles that win more often than they lose.

    Cheers.
     
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    I doubt it. I know a few people who supported you. I've been around since Dinosaurs.

    I would clearly demonstrate a fact about the game that stands true in all situations and leave the hard work to anyone interested.

    So the window should be limited to like 2x 37-spin cycles?

    The problem is that there are a million problems to solve, and each of them looks like it has the answer behind it. That's why we asked you and the other guys to start a thread. A good question is worth more than tens of answers.
     
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    This is offensive, but I'm not offended.

    That's what I'm doing. Also, I consider myself lucky to be around the forums at the right time they exist. No doubt they will not be around in a few years.

    I've been reading TG's writings since his old blog. I have read Vaddi, Dyksexlic, Pri, RRBB, all that. I have read each and every post by CHT about entropy in Roulette. I read TwoUp's recent posts in detail, again! The list goes on...

    My point is that I am putting the hard work in. At the same, if they've already left enough information for those interested to take action, a reference to the right problem to solve would be a great help! Sometimes you find yourself lost in all kinds of problems, mostly not solvable.

    Just to make it clear, I already have a winning system, but it's the slowest thing that has ever happened in the world! I'm still working on it. I'll be sharing more about it on my personal thread.
     
  11. Luckyfella

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    You want the fact that stands true in all situations. That's easy.

    Here's the fact that stands true in ALL situations.

    1. The next spin is not predictable.

    2. The binomial distribution is 100% certain to form.

    You can test this fact, in ALL situations.

    You wrote "leave the hard work to anyone interested".

    I say if anyone is interested enough, they would have done the hard work to confirm this fact to be true.

    Have you?

    My answer, no you haven't done this required hard work.

    Like I said you can't bluff me.

    Serious advice.

    Forget about all the systems betting posted on forum.

    Do this hard work, produce the complete set of binomial distribution graphs.

    You gain a lot more doing this hard work.

    Then waste your time trying to reverse engineer other people's strategy.
     
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    What do you expect?

    Are you afraid of hard work?

    Have you given up when faced with a million problems?

    How do you think I solve it?

    Do you want me to tell the truth or do you prefer me to be nice?
     
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    I have done intensive research in both fields you mentioned. Your judgment sounds personal to me. It's either you know me in person, or you are projecting others onto me. I'm okay with that though.

    1) The next spin(s) cannot be predicted. I knew it mathematically, but I tested every possible way. Math and practical tests are aligned about this fact. Both confirm each other.

    2) The binomial distribution is 100% certain to form.
    My current system is a weak utilization of this fact. A few examples, every single number averages out to 1/37, every Min Interval regresses to 1, LOTT applies to every session played, the distribution of cycle lengths goes towards an equilibrium, etc.

    The main problem is catching the anomaly at the right time. We cannot witness LOTT in our session if we keep receiving 5 unhits every 37 spins we play. We cannot witness the averages we expect if we keep seeing cycles with repeat lengths less than 3, etc.

    The idea is solid, but the problem has stayed unsolved for me for a long time now. What does indicate the characteristics of random numbers at each session or moment?
     
  14. Luckyfella

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    This is the same problem for EVERYONE.

    You have narrowed the problem.

    Crack your brains.
    Solve it!!!

    What you read about other systems betting strategy are types of solution.

    However, they are partial solutions.
    Not complete. That's why you need progression.

    Complete solution don't need progression.
    That's the signature of complete solution.
     
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  15. Luckyfella

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    Here's the thing.

    From what I read from forums I "see" the same mistake committed.

    Somehow for some strange reason we ALL make the same mistake.

    I use the word "we", indicating me included.

    The difference is I saw the mistake.
    By stroke of good luck. Honest.

    When I corrected this mistake I saw the solution.

    It's a simple mistake.
    Strangely we ALL commit this mistake.
    Idk why, but yes we all do.

    I call this as a "logical extrapolation assumption" mistake.
    Some sort of cognitive bias.

    You, who still seek the solution, have to correct this mistake.

    You have to somehow realise your mistake.

    Else you repeat this same mistake over and over again. Getting the same million problems in front of you.

    I have quantified the space between you and the solution.

    It's not a difficult mistake to correct.

    I already told you what you must do in my post above.

    Do it.
    To correct your mistake.
     
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    TRD started a new thread. He needs all the help he can get. Those still interested go help him. Work TOGETHER.
     
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    Like all warrioirs & real wannabe warriors .. get on with the sword; no need to use & deal with gloves as with wimps & pussies.

    Cut off everything unnecesarry .. as the forst premise of removing everything unnecessary to make place for what's really important, for some that's house spring cleaning ..only we ain't maids -- until eventually everything is vacuum, reinventing itself anew as in creating only what's truly essential returning to the vacuum/void on a consistent basis always anew .. like every true Artist.

    Putting the context in roulette you'd always play differently contingent on the interaction with the variance or 'what currently is' --always reinventing anew; but only & always using the same core principles first incorporated & then as distilled obtained ..
     
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    @Luckyfella I'd like you to answer me this straightforward & honestly --

    if you were to be continuously your flat bet 'whatever you call it' -- would it result in consistent profit irregardless?

    or would you require a slight progression .. as per the graphs you take pauses -- either taking advantage of only statistically'physically whatever you call it advantage, simply put it ride the best waves; or as mentioned discountinue betting after 3-steps (or at least having to do with the 25% of the bankroll, whatever the number of spins at each point)

    but these are only the further refinement of the core principles taking a specific form in the practical application optimisation -- for the best profit/spin ration & capital/time investment efficiency

    which brings me/us back to the first-posed question
    if you were to be continuously your flat bet 'whatever you call it' -- would it result in consistent profit irregardless?

    would it still be sufficient to ein overall, & how many spins it would take flatbet to reach the thresholf of time for the advantage to inevitably establush itself as ev+ in each every session, as the distribution inevatly keeps completing itself to its 100%.

    this would greatly reduce the possibilities & confirm/deny (at least some existing things) in my current comprehension, theory & practical application combined.
     
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    I tell you how I bet in my actual b&m casino session.

    I don't use progression.
    Flatbet.

    I don't make continuous flatbet.

    I select the exact time to place my bet.

    Remember, I only have 12units session bankroll.

    I place 1unit for each bet.

    I don't win all my bets.
    I end up net win everytime.

    It makes no difference if I play this 1 unit bet on different tables every time. Similar result if I were to play all my bets on one table.
     
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    OK .. with all due respect you wrote that already.

    I am basically asking in the context of my present system constitution ..
    which uses continuous betting -- since for the initial attack constituting the possibility of cashing in (≈ +1, nominal profit) from the first onwards too, tending to play fewer & fewer numbers, till a point when jumping alternating from more to fewer numbers in initiated & persisted till nominal profit; usually combo hit of 2Q→2ST, & variations thereof 2Q→ST contingent on the exposition & depth of the game legth in terms of spins.

    With core principles being


    Although, this quote & is of the greatest of the implications
    plus it speaks of the same as DrTalos ..
    indicating that potentially the ≈same principle is at play ..



    So, IF you were to play all the spins would you to progress, vertically or in risk or both; I am notta be pulling an andwer from you .. but you not responding I'll take that silence as yes.
     
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