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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The NY Times is a fish wrap full of lies.

    If I have this right New York was supposed to be 5ft deep in sea water decades ago and the Polar Bear floating all alone on that little cube of ice and all the other Polar Bears were all supposed to be extinct by now.

    Do you know what a RINO is?
     
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  2. Ka2

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    Well let me do the calculations...

    The average win is when you have 2 hits is around 33 units profits.

    The average win is when you have only 1 hit in 69 spins (surprise surprise) -33 units

    The loss (no average here ) is -69 were there are no hits.

    Well no need to go any further do we. Again just facts...sorry...
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Here is some science. What happens after an ice age? It melts. What happens after Al Gore predicts Global Cooling in order to get a government grant? He changes that to global warming and gets a Gulfstream V.
     
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    Depending how many spins you will bet , if 69 as here talk - then is only 3...;)
     
  5. Nathan Detroit

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    Beware of the RINOS !
     
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    I've been lurking for a couple of weeks watching the banter back and forth. Same old thing going on for years, just different venues.

    Me, I'm pro Turbo. I have read everything this man has written several times. A couple of years ago all of a sudden things clicked and i understood everything he was talking about. I went and tested what i discovered, I test with real money, real accounts, both live and rng. I can afford to test with real money so i find that this doesnt sway my results by using demo or fun accounts.

    Results in the beginning were break even as i wasnt sure exactly what i was dealing with, i had the knowledge and understanding but wasnt sure exactly how to apply it. A month of intense testing, different routes, I settled on a continuous flatbet system based on everything Turbo has said applying what I have gleaned over the years. It cost me thousands to test the various methods i went through but in the end its worth it. Continuous upward climb Flatbet.

    It's not how Turbo is betting in this example he is posting. How do i know? If you create thousands of your own charts you get a glimpse into how charts form depending on what you are doing, my charts are different than the one Turbo posted, however they have the same upward climb. This means that there is more than just one way to win.

    It involves, averages, minimal interval, repeaters, probability and cold becoming hot, all WITHIN the math of 37 pockets with a 35 to 1 payout.

    Thanks again Turbo. I went out and am making my millions that Steve suggested Lol.
     
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    Notice, winners make this same comment.
     
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  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Seems strange huh? You would think that they would trash people and put up the same old pictures depicting superior intellect and mathematical savviness.
     
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    Interesting

    And this is all using flatbetting? If so, you are breaking the second law of thermodynamics according to some people.
     
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  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's better to break wind than it is to break the second law of thermodynamics
     
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  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Why can't the silly squad grasp that each spin is an independent event?

    If the number of available pockets on the wheel doesn't determine the probability of winning, then what does???
     
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  12. SPIKE

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    Yes this is a big problem. Luckily my local casino which is only 20 minutes away opened in 2011 so I can leave anytime I want if the outcomes are not playing my game. This is why online casinos are perfect for this. Not playing my game? I can come back in an hour. I still do not understand why you think Bovada cheats with their live wheels. They do not have any control over what happens at the place that supplies the feed they use for their live games. Visionary iGaming supplies over 60 casinos with the same exact feed they give to Bovada. They do not cheat, it would be impossible. And even if they could there would be no point in it because they make their money by being honest and drawing in new business from other casinos. I have been playing at Bovada for years and I'm telling you they are legitimate. They're live games are legitimate, anything that's run by a computer you are not going to beat. But all of their live games are absolutely trustworthy.

    Knowing when a wheel is playing your game is 75% of winning. Knowing when not to bet is the most important thing in roulette. If you constantly have to be recovering from losses you are screwed. I never play very long. My goal is never to make more than two or three units in one session. Strike while the iron is hot and get out. Easy to do online, easy to do if you live in Las Vegas where you can move around all the time. Or any city that has multiple casinos like Atlantic City. But playing online is the best of all for people who are beating the game.
     
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  13. gizmotron

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    I might try it again. At first I could not get much deposited there, like $50 max. I'm up from that by now. I hate the speed of the live wheel. It forced me to leave my inside bets out. So I built a tracker that does all the outside bets. I'm tempted to drop back to one type of game. It will still be all three EC's and the dozens and columns. I can kill it with just dominance. This way I can find out if they cheat. They can't cause all the situations of dominance to have first try kills.

    So what about this. The text feed looks like all kinds of people are tipping the dealer. Is that for real?
     
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  14. gizmotron

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    Why can't you grasp that each time I go into a casino that session is an independent event.
     

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    Randomness, coincidence, timing, situational awareness, and high & low loss / win limits.
     
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    How is it going with demonstrating reading randomness?
     
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    Good for you! I sincerely hope it will held up!
     
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    So by you're reasoning, the odds of winning on a 50 pocket wheel and a 38 pocket wheel are the same?
     
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    Yes the tipping is real,
    everything that happens at Bovada is real.. The ongoing chat that you see is from all the casinos that Visionary iGaming has as customers. It's not coming from just Bovada players. I only play one game at a time because it's all I can keep track of. If you dilute your attention too much you will miss a lot. I do keep my eye on certain things that are obvious, but I only play one game. If you think Bovada is bad at 50 spins an hour, the wheel at Evolution spins 80 to 90 outcomes an hour. They do it because it makes them more money and they do it because it also defeats a lot of system players. That's why I only play one game and I certainly do not bet every spin most of the time. The only way to reliably fund Bovada is with Bitcoin.
     
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  20. DutchCrown

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    Remember Turbo's post about 13 people walk into a casino and how they all won?

    Well, here are 12 people who walked into a casino and they all went home as winners!

    Player #01 played his number #5
    Player #02 played his number #8
    Player #03 played his number #9
    Player #04 played his number #18
    Player #05 played his number #19
    Player #06 played his number #21
    Player #07 played his number #24
    Player #08 played his number #26
    Player #09 played his number #29
    Player #10 played his number #30
    Player #11 played his number #32
    Player #12 played his number #36

    As you can see, all players had their own favorite.
    They would only play their number once it showed up, not sooner.

    So here is to the naysayers, how come numbers are not due and even so everyone won as a single player and as a group?
    Only the last in line took a bit longer, but because it needs to get back to it's average point, i know the hit will come and so it did.

    EVERYONE GOT HOME AS A WINNER! ALL 12
    As you can see, numbers who are behind don't need to get back to where they belong to win!
    Let this sink in.
     

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