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Baccarat PPPP bet B Update

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by fathead, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    A little confusing but let me study it a bit and I will post here with questions.
     
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  2. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I've looked at this multiple times and also went back through your original post "I Own It" for clues but don't understand your lettering. I think O=odd and E=even. And 1=odd 2=even. Other than that I don't really see a pattern to your notation. But then I decided it may not matter since you have already deciphered the formations.

    PPPP and BBBB = EOO
    PPPB and BBBP = EOE
    and so on (I hope).

    I can just match your final notation to the patterns you have listed. Let me know if this is acceptable. What happens next?
     
  3. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Of course. I sense you are a winning player. Some winners have much experience just SEE the next bet without realizing what they are doing. You, I think, are more mechanical and all may benefit if we can figure out your plan.
     
  4. Myrtlejones

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    I know it is a little hard to get but i will stay with it until you do, 4 players or 4 bankers are even odd even, 3 players and a banker or 3 bankers and a player are even odd odd, when the shoe result changes from banker to player or player to banker the E,O stays the same then goes back to its normal form, if you want you can send me a shoe and i will break it down so you can understand
     
  5. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Okay here is shoe 4003:

    Shoe, Hand, Result

    4003,1,P
    4003,2,P
    4003,3,P
    4003,4,B
    4003,5,B
    4003,6,B
    4003,7,B
    4003,8,P
    4003,9,P
    4003,10,P
    4003,11,B
    4003,12,P
    4003,13,B
    4003,14,B
    4003,15,B
    4003,16,B
    4003,17,B
    4003,18,P
    4003,19,B
    4003,20,B
    4003,21,B
    4003,22,P
    4003,23,B
    4003,24,P
    4003,25,P
    4003,26,B
    4003,27,B
    4003,28,B
    4003,29,P
    4003,30,P
    4003,31,P
    4003,32,P
    4003,33,P
    4003,34,B
    4003,35,B
    4003,36,P
    4003,37,B
    4003,38,B
    4003,39,B
    4003,40,P
    4003,41,P
    4003,42,B
    4003,43,B
    4003,44,P
    4003,45,P
    4003,46,B
    4003,47,B
    4003,48,P
    4003,49,P
    4003,50,B
    4003,51,B
    4003,52,P
    4003,53,P
    4003,54,B
    4003,55,B
    4003,56,B
    4003,57,P
    4003,58,P
    4003,59,P
    4003,60,B
    4003,61,B
    4003,62,P
    4003,63,P
    4003,64,P
    4003,65,P
    4003,66,P
    4003,67,P
    4003,68,P
    4003,69,P
    4003,70,B
    4003,71,P
     
  6. Myrtlejones

    Myrtlejones Active Member

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    Here you go fathead, i am looking to running 3 shoes consectutively and the groups to run continuously, your shoe stops at 17 and has 3 shoe results left over but would run right into the next shoe, i have tons of shoe results but most not complete for most times 3 to 5 units is a wrap for me, going through the results i had the very solid 52% with little down side, i went through 500 shoes showing solid profit,from result 40 the terrible 2s start which we avoid betting odd numbers, even if we hit a bad streak the pattern betting 3 out of 4 shoe results rotates so no pattern will hit against for any length, results from this shoe shows 26 loss 24 win
     
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  7. fathead

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    Great, thanks. It looks like you made 51 bets outs of 71 decisions. Would you mind circling the decisions that you placed bets on in the "Shoe Result" image and uploading that revised image again here also? That would help me. I have printed these two out already and will study them. I will post additional questions here.
     

  8. Myrtlejones

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    Yes Fathead right on 51 bets, we are moving forward, like it, this is why i need you to test for i have never in the last 30 years made that many bets in a shoe, it goes against everything i have believed in while playing this game. Let me add that the shoe result after the X is the first bet and it will always be for a chop which would be (1)( odd number), if it comes double which is a (2)( even number) we have to play for a (1)because we would add it to the (2) which would give us (3) odd number, if it comes BBP or PPB that would gives us (2+2) now we need a (1)to add to (4) =( 5) if you go back to the groups of 4 only one group has 3 even numbers and 7 groups have atleast one odd, i am hear if you need more, no hurry i am not going to lose my patience this time until we get to the end
     
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    Oh, also, if you could mark the bet (P or B or no bet) that you made for each decision, that would be very helpful (you could just write it out in a separate column). For example the first 4 decisions are P P P B.

    Decision, Bet

    P, P or B or blank (no bet)
    P, P or B or blank (no bet)
    P, P or B or blank (no bet)
    B, P or B or blank (no bet)

    Thanks.
     
  10. Myrtlejones

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  11. Myrtlejones

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    That explanation is very helpful, printing all this out. Yes, i appreciate your patience and the extra information. An interesting project indeed.
     
  13. fathead

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    Yes, perfect. I think I have enough information for now. If I run into any problems I will ask additional questions here. Also I will post updates for you here as my coding progresses. I should be able to start working on it tomorrow.
     
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    Myrtle, I looked at it again. It looks like you copied the shoe decisions. I was hoping to get the bets (banker or player) that you actually made for each hand in each group.

    For example, the first 12 decisions are PPPB BBBP PPBP. I know that you skip the first decision in the group of 4. What are the 3 bets that you made for each group? Are these bets correct below? Thanks.

    Decision, Bet
    P x
    P B
    P P
    B P

    B x
    B P
    B B
    P B

    P x
    P B
    B P
    P P

    If this is correct, the longest losing streak you had in this shoe is only 3, which is really good.
     
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  15. Xytras

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    Mytrlejones, thank you for your work! Can you please elaborate on this point...from Fathead's shoe in a structure #5, we have B(x) P(odd,2), B(odd,2), B(even,2). You said that odd=1 and even=2 so why you wrote P odd2 and B odd2? Shouldn't it be Bx P1 B1 B2 instead?

    Thanks
     
  16. Myrtlejones

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    you are right on, yes i thought i might of messed the last question up
     
  17. Myrtlejones

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    Yes that is a mistake, thank you for pointing it out, should read 122= 135 odd odd odd
     
  18. fathead

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    1, 2, 2 ... I think. Which would improve the final results.
     
  19. Myrtlejones

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    Fathead group 5 should read 122= 135 odd odd odd i made mistake sorry
     
  20. fathead

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    Which erases 3 losses and adds 3 wins. So Even 23, Odd 27. Even better.
     

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