TurboGenius Turbo, do you remember the discussion on how to select the repeat?

Spike,

When's the last time you were in LV?

 

Been awhile, there are way too many casinos in my state now. Going to Vegas is a waste of time. Why. And with covid I haven't been to a brick-and-mortar casino since March of 2020. They were closed until fall 2020 and then the play was very limited all winter. Only three people were allowed at the roulette table at one time and if they chose to stay there for an hour you were screwed. So I just stayed home and played online. Now my state has legalized online gambling so I might not ever go to a brick-and-mortar casino again. Why would I go to Vegas. What a waste of time and money.

 

The actuaries have ruined Vegas. They charge for parking at most casinos. Even bottled water is silly priced. There are more triple zero wheels popping up, (Still single zeros here and there as well) and there are a ton of roulette machines. The casinos have become crazy busy again, but not so much with gamblers. They're infested with an undesirable south LA element that's dangerous in some locations. Also, the entire place smells like a skunk that's been pissed on by a cat.

 

Why would they spoil business to add additional zero if they are already winning from the system gamblers? Logic is in the way as usual.

 

I always stay downtown usually at the Four Queens or the Fremont. Parking is free if you're a guest. I usually stay downtown and walk to the casinos. I've always hated the Strip and never had any use for it. I'm sure downtown hasn't changed at all. Last time I was there I stayed at the Plaza. The hotel was nice put the roulette sucked because they didn't have tote boards. What a bunch of cheapskates.

 

The Circ is new downtown, and it is a monster. But the last time I was there they were scanning IDs just to get in because of the China Virus.
Downtown has changed quite a bit. Binions is no longer what it used to be...it's just another grind joint now. The old diner is still there though. The streets are also full of topless women performers...a bit different from when you were there last. They also finally upgraded the projection above Fremont.

 

Hmmmm, this what we want or not want that is our problem and not Turbo's problem at all. Exact same words use your good friend all the time .

I don't worry about Turbo, he is very good guy and all his ideas have good logic (some better than others) and after all he very much helps to all forum and all members who are open to listen him.

BUT I much more worry about Luckyfella, because he is very big mystery to me. His riddles are 10 times harder to understand at least for me because of language barrier. Turbo after all still explains small pieces here and there if a reader pays attantion. But Luckyfella with his Birthday names paradox and Entrophy so much complicates that the head burns. I don't understand how can someone track numbers and use them as a trigger for playing outside even chances and this with flat bets only. Spike's, Nathan Detroit,... ways are logical. They track EC and play according triggers or patterns those EC showed.
So Luckyfelly, would you be so kind and explain a bit more how can numbers help you to chose what EC you will cover in next spin or spins??
AND why you not bet direct on individual numbers??

 

Jefra, if I am not wrong the only published academic paper about roulette this last few years is about the use of birthday paradox math.

I don't get it why forum members don't explore this math thoroughly?

A simple check, IF DONE CORRECTLY(caps and bolded to emphasise), must quickly show the tendencies of the outcomes that reflect the calculated probability.

Now that anyone can calculate the probability of any situation, what if you found the probability that's better than odds?

Imagine you knew the outcome that stay within the limits of some known probability? This tantamount playing roulette with access to "insider info" placing bets at the right places at the right time.

Isn't this the cheat that all of you systems players are looking for?

The problem has never been calculating the probability. Counting is a simple task.

How to devise a situation where the probability is better than odds is the real challenge.

You need superb understanding about what the probability numbers mean. You need creativity to watch the flow of the probability numbers as the variable changes. You have to think in differential mindset.

None of you have actually watch spin outcomes and think in terms of probability number differentials as spins hit the pocket one by one. None, zero, nada. I'm not sure if you understand what I write.

If you do understand, then use the birthday paradox calculator I posted and update the calculation as each spin hit one by one. Watch the probability number. This is the minimum requirement, the lowest bar.

Jefra, you ask why I don't play inside numbers. It's works just the same.

First reason, the larger the location the larger the permutation the more complex the tracking and the more difficult the placing of bets inside the betting window. It becomes messy and impractical when you play at the manual table.

Second reason, the casino will never think that you are using some sophisticated advantage play method when you place outside bets. Perfect camouflage playing the losers systems betting game.

You ask for more hints.
Read my posts.

There's nothing else to tell you. Nothing.
You guys made what I wrote to be complicated when it's not.
It's simple plotting the probability graph, then match it to odds. Then identify if there's a deviation between the 2 numbers.

I repeat one more time.

The real challenge is under what specific condition does the probability deviate from odds?

Ofc this won't be posted in public.
You do the hard work with the calculator.
Most of you here claim you are above average smarts. Use it then when it matters.
It's either you find it or you don't. Master that birthday paradox probability calculator to expert level.

 

They still will not get it. Mark my words

 

Similar paradoxes are more...

So can you explain how can understanding this paradox ( I hope you understand meaning of this word ) , so how this paradox can help in guessing what will be in future ?
Because wining on roulette is hardly related with ability to guess right about future ...

 

Do you with this mean that come out for example # 10 and in next spin #23 or #5 ?? so neighbours on a Wheel?

 

I just wrote that no one will ever reveal.

And you have to ask this stupid question expecting me to give you the answer. Lololol

 

Update the probability calculator for each spin and jot down the probability number on a piece of paper.

Play with the calculator using whatever ways you can come up with. Be creative, play the calculator like a naive child any which way possible. No barriers.

Most important is to update the calculator CORRECTLY. This is your biggest hurdle. Understand what the calculator is all about.

UNDERSTANDING probability number and the meaning of birthday paradox math that the calculator calculates is your biggest hurdle.

Don't assume you know.
Truth is you don't.
Now do the hard work one spin at a time.

 

usually not answering is when not are what to answer ...

 

Jefra, how are you going to update the calculator?

This is the difficult part.

T H I N K !!!

 

I will try to understand, but I admit If I read about the probabilities calculation and binomial distribution etc It's higher math which I find really hard to grasp. But I try to find explanations on many sites to make it more "tangible"

I have an idea what I'm testing now and I "think" I'm on the right track. But unfortunately I for the obvious reasons I can not post it here... :-(

 

Yes, and it's garbage, as I showed. Round and round we go again...

 

Yeah, nothing like actually losing to make the casinos think you're losing, LOL!

 

spins = 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
p(x) = 15,42% 24,57% 34,76% 45,34% 55,68% 65,26% 73,71% 80,82% 86,52%

The the difference in the percentages before spin 6 are smaller and after spin 10 they decrease

I don't know if that's what Luckyfella means.

 

Lucky Fella,


See my post # 184,