TurboGenius Turbo, do you remember the discussion on how to select the repeat?

Winrate is calculated by, amount won / amount bet

 

Quo, what you posted is differential thinking that is derivatives representing rate of change. Good job.
Now remember to always try to retain this differential mindset and recognise the characteristic as you read the numbers.
You need to understand what it means. Understanding of this derivative is very important. Best you do some research about it.

Now, the differential you are looking for has to be a huge obvious one between point A and the next point B as you change the input variable.
Play around with the calculator to find it.

 

6thsense how can i get in touch with you?

 

A good ROFL .

 

Him saying that & still playing 'for fun' makes him either stu pitt, mazohist, or yet not fully bloomed suicidal tendencies. Hi mazo.

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No, he just exposed his biggest fear -- & assumptions he makes to cover & mend the hole ..

but the itch won't go away unless treated directly & properly.

 

Thanks; why 1.2, & how would you define the same in the overall u/spin ratio?

 

Lucky, how do you override the simple fact of quads overlaying .. & the calculation of the probability, what's more the rate of the change
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23 Quad positions = Q0-3 + two in each ds --11x ds potential areas that ad-hoc formalize as a game unfolds.

 

Something I can agree with, But not the second quote.
Does the probability change too for a systems player able to exploit patterns on the wheel? (You know the answer).
Does your special calculator have a special function key that calculates biased wheels? Did you buy your special calculator from the same guy Jack bought his magic beans from?

When a player finds any advantages for themselves, the probabilities don’t change. They may win more often but nothing changes not the odds nor probabilities.

sounds like you’re talking about Players Edge? But I thought you mathboys don’t believe in that crap.

 

Are you sure about that? When a deer hunter leaves his cabin the probabilities of him getting a deer depends on many factors. If it snowed the night before the probability just changed. If he sees fresh deer prints in the snow his probability just went through the roof. If a player can find advantages that helps him win how does that not change the probability.

 

I'll answer this question carefully and simply say, it depends on what you mean by patterns. I will say most people can't win on a biased wheel, including Turbo.

Chi square and standard deviation are common calculations, however data must match predicted visual defects. We find the biased wheel before writing spins, on sight, not by simply writing numbers

If some numbers hit more or less than others because of a physical defect, then the odds do change, if you're betting on those biased numbers.

 

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And the odds also change when you find an advantage based on anything else. When you consistently win more than you lose in every session the odds just changed in your favor. The casinos odds are completely based on a player betting randomly on random outcomes. If you change that their odds disappear. Luckily they assume that nobody can do it. Just like they assumed before Thorp that nobody could beat blackjack. When the truth was they had been doing it for decades. The card counters begged Thorp not to write his book. They knew about the book because he interviewed a bunch of them for the book.

 

Playing roulette is more similar to poker than Blackjack.

For Blackjack you count the revealed cards to probabilistically know the remaining hot cards that are in the players favour.

In poker the cards are revealed each deal, the player knows the odds of his own card, the odds of improving his hand, the odds of his opponents cards and the odds of his opponent improving his hand. The player calls when he has the stronger hand, and folds when he has the weaker hand. The player may chose to play the bluff.

Similarly, when we play roulette we play it like poker minus the bluff strategy. The spins are revealed one by one with known probability. We know the probability of A is higher than B under specific conditions, that's when we make the decision like the poker player to place the bet at the location for the next spin.

The difference between roulette and poker is for roulette the poker cards are played face up. This is a major advantage comparing face down to face up poker.

Do the roulette player win every hand?

Ofc not.

What's the win rate or edge of such a "face up poker" roulette systems betting player?

Imagine a poker game, one player plays a face up poker where his opponents cards are revealed to him.

What is his win rate or edge?

This "face up poker" roulette

 

And this is where we agree to disagree and do not wish to pursue this any farther.
But I do want to state why what I said.

In the case of Blackjack where every card dealt, is taken out of the equation affects the odds on what cards are left. In this case roulette. Any number the ball lands on is still in play and still remains in the equation.
That’s the simplest way to put this.

 

Mmmmm .. correct me how I'm wrong in case off ..

.. but the casino odd remain the same & your probability increases = players edge.


Casinos odd cemented as they constitute the game as it is = roulette, & that environment (including paying the tax on a win to the game facilitator =casino), those rules you accept (to play by) the moment you place the bet or position the chip(s); no matter what you are, have, do or say .. doesn't change that ..

unless you are one of the facilitator's syndicates that decides to change & establish new or updated/upgraded rules .. thus offering a new type or updated game..

 

I get it now, you're another one of the airball players looking for patterns in the numbers based on what's hit previously.

 

This is how to explain why using Blackjack as a conditional probability model to roulette is incorrect.

Let's imagine a poker game where there are 100 decks in the shoe the dealer deals from. This way the conditional probability is diluted to make it close to unconditional probability given the large number of decks.

Lets say one of the players(a) has a triple ace and his opponent(b) has 2 pairs. The odds of player(a) winning is fixed no matter if the shoe has 10 or 100 or a thousand decks.

This is the same when you play "face up poker" roulette strategy where the odds are fixed.

 

Exactly, what an idiot .. (broken character in need & search acceptance, approval & recognition; & on top of that potentially a rat who sold his ass to the casinos' syndicates to infiltrate the underworld & exposed it to the light of the day).

& the same the bridge to far crew expects of 'us' (those who know how to consistently win) to spin the beans, just to satisfy their curiosity of proving them wrong .. without actually thinking &or actually not caring/giving a damn about the broader & broadest ripple effects -- for the same damn () reasons.

To them, eat your impoverished lunch each & every day, & wallow in the delusionary cage you placed comfortably your ego, where due to you self-imposed condition feels at best.

 

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