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TurboGenius Turbo, do you remember the discussion on how to select the repeat?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Dec 4, 2021.

  1. Keyser Soze

    Keyser Soze Active Member

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    Yep!
    And be prepared to repeat this over and over again cause it’ll get lost in translation over time.
    You can even start a new thread and that will even get pushed back to the back pages.

    prolly best to save our energy not get caught up in the mix and let them get to us.

    can’t believe how badly we messed up this thread
     
  2. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    If you combine both ideas together,

    Turbo's random has limit,

    And 6thsense in sync,

    You get a true positive edge systems bet.

    It's about where to bet and when to bet.

    Just that people have to be shown before they belief.
     
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  3. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    ... because random has limits. Or another way to say it is, there's limit to expansion.

    It does take brains to figure out orderly limit.

    Most systems get killed by chaotic limit.
     
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  4. thereddiamanthe

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    Exactly, resonance.

    That's why I play (not parachute but) parachute-based system with minimum-betting & nominal-profit principles that has an inherent property of buying time/spins .. keeping the drawdowns recoverable when it slowly/suddenly starts getting out of sync very cost-effectively.



    Gizmo calls that otherwise, basically observing various bs selections simultaneously & added with another Time-based qualifier to get to know how the bs selection seasons' have passed as an additional indicator, basically determining the resonance between the bs & what's currently happening. Correct?
     
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  5. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    ?
     
  6. Shank

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    You seem to have the answer.
     
  7. Median Joe

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    Independence doesn't cause anything, it's just a statement of fact about roulette. Sure you can see win streaks, but independence says that there aren't any patterns such that a pattern which hasn't appeared yet follows reliably one which has appeared. Any observations you make which seem to contradict this are just coincidence. This an objective fact about roulette outcomes, so it doesn't matter whether you see patterns and bet on them, or whether you bet randomly.

    "Yesterday, upon the stair,
    I met a man who wasn't there!
    He wasn't there again today,
    Oh how I wish he'd go away!"

    What you're saying is that "reading randomness" takes advantage of the coincidences (times when a pattern continues or correlates with a prior pattern). This would only give you an edge if outcomes weren't patternless; if there actually were some patterns which followed reliably from other patterns. But as this is objectively false, reading randomness is no better than betting randomly. If you ever find even one pair of patterns which correlate, you've found a HG. But before setting out on this quest, isn't it reasonable to ask why there should be any such pairs of patterns?

    If you see RRB RRB, is the pattern going to continue or not? There's a 50% chance that the next outcome will be R (pattern continues) and a 50% chance it won't. That's true however long the pattern is when you first notice it. If you agree that this logic applies to any location or pattern, isn't it reason enough to not bother trying to find correlating patterns and instead look for other ways to win?
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well gee wiz Wally.

    You are brighter than I first realized. Math can't tell you when a win streak will start, how long it will last, and when it will end. And now we have no guarantees. I suggest that you take up knitting.

    Spike is right. You guys want to treat the casino as your own personal ATM machine that prints money or you are going to take all your toys and go home.

    Whacky, that's what you are. You should actually listen to yourself. If there is no guarantee then maybe you should consider learning how to live without one.
     
  9. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I only decide to bet on one spin at a time. If it continues then I decide if I want to try it again or not. It depends on if the guesses are working in a swarm or if it only occurred in chaos. That implies a context regarding coincidence. You can't accept that notion because you are all in on what everyone can't do.
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've tried for years to tell people that I have no witchcraft powers to predict anything. But I have eyes too. I believe what is right in front of me for instance. I can see when a trend is working and when it is not working. That is what is known as scientific observation. So I use reality to target opportunity. Forex has external forces that are not random in nature. People run scared in a sell off. As a bunch of jerks that sit on their abacus always say, you can't know what the future outcome is when it comes to randomness. Forex is worthless in this regard.
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm glad that you feel this way. There it is again. You need the power of prediction or nothing can work otherwise. Math guys are such toads. You guys don't know how to handle losses.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    Baloney. Baccarat is a one data stream game. Yes, I could sit around all day waiting for a chance to fuck with every math guy in the world or I can do what I do and hammer it much faster with 6 simultaneous data streams. Visual dexterity is the key, not some math equation.
     
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  13. gizmotron

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    I do like being unpopular. So you woke up? I have been using things that work some times and don't work others for decades. And I was never successful at shoving a mathZombie's heads up their own asses because it's against the law for one thing. And the other thing is that their heads are already up there. So what do you think about the daylight?
     
  14. gizmotron

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    You crack me up. I like your defeated attitude I hope it serves you well in life.

    So I see your "RRB RRB" pattern and I bet one time that it will be red next. I can live with that 50% chance because my mother no longer dresses me and picks my meals. And because I love win streaks this time it continues on as more RRB RRB, RRB RRB, RRB RRB patterns. You get your oatmeal and today's fruit from mom and I kill off the casino. All is good with the world. So I can sit around and mope that there is no guarantees or I can contemplate how you are going to miss this one and the next one and the next one and the next one. Every time I do in the casino because a pattern is an identifier of a continuing win streak, when it is working I will also remind myself that you would not make any money off that opportunity because you have your standing in the world to maintain. So good for you. You are doing yourself a great job.
     

  15. precogm

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    Technical analysis is like astrology.

    Has more chance of working than rule based systems in my opinion.
     
  16. Ka2

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    Technical Analysis is like driving a car forwards and only use your rear view mirror for directions...
     
  17. Median Joe

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    Baloney. You can generate as many streams as you like in Baccarat, not that it will do you any good.
     
  18. SPIKE

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    How do you do that. Please explain. Banker and player, where are the other streams.
     
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    You and your name callings... You wasted your whole life on something that doesn't even exist, and now it's way too hard for you to let go. It would be a lie if I say that I feel you, for many obvious reasons. Your stupid trends and bet selection are no better than a coin toss: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't... You know what? You bore me to death. I'm going to watch my favorite series now, so here, take the attention you need and fuck off.
     
  20. gizmotron

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    Perhaps he means the different characteristics of randomness? One example would be singles on the weak side. I love it when the math guys say that that feature formation does not exist.
     

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