Baccarat 5 column statistics

You are essentially playing a Banker streak for one bet that runs off into the next column. You would be betting for the 3 or 4 hole in the B streak to occur.
Example: PB/Bx or PBB/Bx
/ =signifies the start of next column

 

If you all prefer me to post a whole shoe, I will. I just thought it would be a waste if time as the betting is quite sporadic.

 

"Columns of five" I guess would be worded better. Do you start each shoe fresh with new columns or continue a column from the end of one shoe to the beginning of the next shoe?

I can test it for you. It is worth a try. The commission will eat into your profits. The +4 that you calculated in these 10 shoes is really +3.25 after commission. In EZ Baccarat the banker pushes will lower your profits quite a bit in that game.

 

Start each shoe with fresh columns. Commission will eat into profits but there is very little betting so not too much. Those 10 shoes didn't really do the Lapper play justice as there will be many times that you will win much more than that.
Sure, feel free to test it. It was a winner through both Zumma books and my own collection of live shoes. I can't quite remember but I think there was close to a 20 unit drawdown in the big Zumma book but it rebounded nicely.

 

Hi,Just out of Curiosity I want to know whether u are playing this strategy for REAL or is it for testing purpose only, because betting opportunities are very few, & takes lot of waiting time even on online Casino,thanks

 

Also, I don't record ties.

 

I've played it for real many times coupled with other strategies. The purpose of posting this initially was for other members of the forum to develop something playable where this betting strategy could be employed. Chewbaccarat came the closest to this, while he did not develop a system, his testing showed what could be playable and what couldn't.
Of course it would be very hard to play the "Lapper" bet all by its lonesome. Even if you found a casino that would give you all the free hands you wanted, the moment they see you winning, say goodbye to those free hands. I've played teams with my wife betting table minimum playing opposites until my betting opportunities arrived and got asked to leave eventually by the casino.
Test this for yourself though, it wins flat betting. I would be grateful of any insights of you or other members have that could make this more playable.

 

As fathead said about random game and random bets got my wheels spinning. This may be the answer. When I have time, I'm going to revisit my old scorecards.

 

Okay I will work on it and post the results here when I am done. I am thinking it will lose money after commission flat betting but you never know. Sometimes I am surprised by the testing. Give me a day or two.

 

Ok. You don't bet enough to lose to the commission. Try it out. You'll see. I will be going over old scorecards. I have something else in mind that might work with it.

 

Do you mind telling me about this back off? If you are betting opposites they still make commission every Banker win. What was their reasoning and what did they tell you exactly? What casino? Thanks.

 

You are right it did make money flat betting. The house edge on these bets (5% commission) took almost 80% of the profit but it did end in the positive. Out of 4062 shoes only about 120 shoes did not have any bets. You ended with +90.9 units profit with a peak to valley drawdown of -93 units. The profit chart is attached below.



You will have more bets and more profit if you treat your session as one big shoe and continue the columns from the end of one shoe to the beginning of the next rather than starting fresh each shoe. This version earned +103.9 units with a drawdown of -94 units. See the profit curve below.



Why this Column of Five works, I have no idea. Interesting study. Thanks for posting.

 

tell me the system!?!?? is it a 1-2-3 punch?
was it a trigger wait?
martingale rolling? answer now please
will it survives the houses edge?

 

Thanks for the hard work Fathead. I appreciate it. Very interesting about playing it as one big shoe for more profit, I'm glad it wins a bit more. I shall try playing it like that.
I found this play on accident. I was going through 1000s of shoes trying to get my percentages together on the 5 column and I noticed B repeated many times when it lapped over into the next column and ta-da, somehow I found a play that works flat betting.
Could you find out what happens when you get P-B or a B-P that overlaps into the next column? Of course I mean a single B then P or a single P then B. Im curious of the results. I did some testing about 4 years ago and got sidetracked with something else. Thanks again for your hard work.

 

Perhaps there is a slow progression that could be used to up the profit. What was the longest loss string on your test?

 

Also, would be curious that upon a B lapper win, place the next bet on Player, considering that it is slightly advantageous to bet P after BB .

 

Hi, But on a banker lapper win it would be BBB,or BBBB, Kindly clarify,thanks

 

14 losses in a row, which is pretty much normal (14 to 16) for my data. Every once in a while I will see 19-20 losses in a row but not often. I think if I had more data (20,000 shoes) I would see the longer loss strings more often.

 

Correct. I was just talking about for further testing. Test after winning the B lapper, placing the next immediate bet on Player. But yeah, there is no betting on the Player when placing a B lapper bet.

 

I tried what you mentioned above (chop lapper?) and both sides lost money.