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Baccarat 5 column statistics

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by violater777, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    PBBPPBPBPBBBBPP

    1 P _1 B _1 B
    2 B _2 P _2 B
    3 B _3 B _3 B
    4 P _4 P _4 P
    5 P _5 B _5 P
     
  2. Baccarat Magician

    Baccarat Magician Active Member

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    I read your quote

    "Here is a test (after commission of course) using a Grand Martingale. Here we try to make one unit for each bet we make. We double the bet and then add one unit, (1, 3, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127, 255, 511, 1000, 1000). Since the table limit is 1000, the final two bets will have to be 1000. This earned +9581.35 units."

    Just to be clear, in this grand martingale progression, you capped it at 11 steps in the progression? And if you lost the whole 11 steps in the progression you would reset at 1 unit? Or did you keep betting 1000 (table limit) until you hit 1 unit at the end? In your testing, did you see the 11 steps bust, meaning more then 15 Players in a row? Im just curious if the 11 step martingale is the only one that is profitable or if a 5 step martingale will perform as well.
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    @fathead and Baccarat Magician. I'm surprised that you two guys haven't poured over Ian Harmers "Turnaround."

    Cheers
     
  4. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    If I hit the 1000 unit table limit I just kept betting the limit until I had a win. You could limit to 512 or 256 and still make money but drawdown increases. Also when I saw BPPPP I kept betting B until I had a win. That was the profitable way to do it when using a progression rather than waiting for the next BPPPP. The 11 steps occurred 3 times and did not bust. I am sure it would if I had more shoes.

    I tried the 5 step for you. Best was to start betting B when you see BPPPP and continue until you see a win. When you lose the 16 unit bet reset to 1 and continue betting until you get the win. It did not do that great, though. +330 units with drawdown of -417.
     
  5. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    That's a complicated one. :) Not sure if you are laughing at us or making a recommendation.
     
  6. Baccarat Magician

    Baccarat Magician Active Member

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    Got it, thank you for clarifying and testing, its very informative)
     
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  7. violater777

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    Hey Fathead,
    You must have understood me. I meant betting on the Banker streak until it ends using the 1,2,4 method using a positive progression, not a negative progression. I didn't mean betting against a Player streak. Sorry for the confusion.
     

  8. Jacky

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    Can i ask you,do u only bet 1 hand per columns or can bet 2 hand per columns if we had the trigger in the same columns? THANK YOU
     
  9. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I see what you are saying, betting with the PBB or PBBB in sequence 1, 2, 4.

    That was positive, earning +476.15 with drawdown of -147.85. An example below.

    < P
    < B
    < B
    < B
    4 B< bet 1 (banker win) +1
    5 B< bet 2 (banker win) +3
    1 B< bet 3 (banker win) +6
    2 P< bet 4 (banker loss) +2
    3 no bet
     
  10. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there would be any overlaps.

    < P
    < B
    < B
    1 <<bet

    < P
    < B
    < B
    2 << bet

    < P
    < B
    < B
    < B
    4 << bet
     
  11. Jacky

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    Sorry i still don get it for example
    P
    B
    B
    1 - bet banker here and we get (B)
    2 - same columns OF 5 here do will still bet (B) here cause we have a 2 slot and the trigger For slot 2 ,or 1 columns just bet once then ignore this 2 slot after winning the 1 slot in this columns .
    Thank you
     
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  12. Jacky

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    And I see you on the 4 bet that is
    P
    B
    B
    B
    4 bet (B) here
    This you didn't use the lapper from the previous column already rite ? So I wanna know that you find the profitable way now is not even follow the lapper like the owner of this strategy rite? Correct me if I wrong . Cause I still in confused. Appreciate your reply.
     
  13. fathead

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    Just bet once and look for the next setup.

    3 P
    4 B
    5 B
    1 B <win
    2 B <no bet
    3 P
    4 P
    5 B
    1 B
    2 P <loss
    3 P <no bet
    4 P
    5 P
    1 B
    2 B
    3 B
    4 B <win
    5 B <no bet
    1 P
    2 B
    new shoe
    1 B
    2 B <win
    3 P <no bet
    4 P
     
  14. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I have abandoned the lapper and just look at the sequence number to be bet regardless of what sequence number came before.
     

  15. Jacky

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    Thank you so much and I have try to play BPBP bet P utill 2 banker and stop
    And pppp bet b together with the slot 1 2 4 in one shoes is that ok? For your way to make more profits in long run?
     
  16. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No not laughing. I taught myself how to follow this a long time ago. It's complicated. But it seems to pay out the way he states. It would generally be hard for me to play live but now with the stadium games prevailing it should be a lot easier. I see guys sitting there with their tablets doing calculations. They don't seem to get any heat.

    By the way one of my methods that I play a lot is a four column. I use four different data streams with that.
     
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  17. fathead

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    It should be PBPBP bet P until Player win or two Banker losses.

    Yes I think you could play all three.
     
  18. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    That is good to know. You should write up your playing methods. I think you mentioned you approach 55% strike rate.
     
  19. Jacky

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    But I run for many shoes that
    P
    B
    B
    1 bet b
    2 still bet b ( mean 1 columns bet 2 bet if have triggers on 2slot) make more profits. Can u check it or I'm wrong. Or just follow your rules is way better.
     
  20. Jacky

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    But here u show that Start with BpBp and bet P until 2 banker and stop.
     

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