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Baccarat 5 column statistics

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by violater777, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    All I can say is betting 2 bets instead of one did not test as well on my data.
     
  2. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    BPBP bet P for one bet only tested well.

    The thing about betting two Bankers was as follows (the bets are in bold)

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    P B P B P <start betting player> P <win - stop betting>

    P B P B P <start betting player> B P <win - stop betting>

    P B P B P <start betting player> B B <loss - two bankers in a row - stop betting>
    "

    ...or you could do this...

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    B P B P <start betting player> B P B P B P P

    In the above example you finally won on the fourth bet after 10 chops.

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    In this example you lost 3 bets to banker and won the fourth bet on player.
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Can't get 55%. Don't know if I ever will be able to. I've written it up. I've paid a guy to program it. Right now I've only got a little over 5,000 Wagers so maybe it will fall apart.
     
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  4. violater777

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    Excellent. This seems like the correct way to play this then. Maybe other positive progressions yield better results.
    So how you tested this was start with 1 unit and chip up every win?
     
  5. violater777

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    Now that we have the triggers that deliver a positive expectancy and that should be the backbone of the system. We should find something to couple it with. All ideas are welcome.
     
  6. soxfan

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    I've been testing the bet b after ppp pop style and it perform even better than bet b after pppp pop style, hey hey.
     
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  7. violater777

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    Through how many shoes?
     

  8. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    So far testings by hand buckin up against 1106 live online dealt shoe what offer by the evolution gamings am lookin at a total nets profit of +334.3 units. The worst case drwadownd scenario was -22.55 unit and that was worse case otherwise never got clipped for more than -14.75 unit so a lifetimes 50-60 units banksroll should serve ya in good steads, hey hey.
     
  9. violater777

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    Good net profit. Are you just looking for the occurence of PPP or are you grouping them into a column of 4?
     
  10. soxfan

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    Nah, I gave up on that column/row stuff long ago, just wait for ppp to pop then come over the top bettin bankers, one time, then win or lose stop and don't wager again until you see another ppp pop, hey hey.
     
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    The fat-head's researches pretty much confirm my findings from extensive testings what show it's most always a coconut proposition to make a wager on the players side of the equation, hey hey.
     
  12. violater777

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    I see. I'll look through some of my shoes to validate. Thanks for sharing. Only reason why I use a column of 5 is that it decreases the number of possible 5 hand sequences per shoe and allows me to track those 5 hand sequences and play them accordingly. In a nutshell, it's just easier for me to play and get statistical value.
     
  13. violater777

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    I agree for the most part. Very few Player bets have a statistical advantage from my experience.
     
  14. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy Active Member

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    Sucksfan you are just bullshit.tting people and your dog is starving.

    The PPP then bet B plan is a totally worthless EV- method, widely verified either on live shoe samples and on pc samples.
    The same about betting B after any fkng long P streak or series of P streaks happened as a more likely hand at Banker side must come out by a greater than 51.3% percentage (the cutoff value to get banker bets as profitable itlr).

    You'll authomatically get this response anytime you keep stressing about this bulls.hi.t

    as.


     

  15. asymbacguy

    asymbacguy Active Member

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    He's looking to buy a meal for the family

    as.
     
  16. violater777

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    So this made more wins than losses through 4000+ shoes? Never would have thought of this.
     
  17. Jacky

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    Thank for all your reply.
    So for this which one you will go for ? And which one make more in your testing.
    B P B P <start betting player> B P B P B P P stop bet after u see 2 banker
    Or
    P B P B P <start betting player> P <win - stop betting>

    P B P B P <start betting player> B P <win - stop betting>

    P B P B P <start betting player> B B <loss - two bankers in a row - stop betting>
    "
     
  18. Jacky

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    So with this you wanna use parlay hoping banker streak and Only betting 1,2,4 slots of the column, only betting 3 or 4 hole of the B streak only? Or play together with other triggers
    PBPBP ( bet P until 2 banker lose)
    And
    PPPP ( bet b until a loss seen P)
    Thank you
     
  19. violater777

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    That is correct. As far as playing with the other triggers, that is up to you. They all beat Fatheads shoes.
     
  20. Jacky

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    Fathead
    So when u mean bet for the streak , it come up to me is same with bet 2 time or more in 1 columns that have triggers to bet with 124 slot. And I test it many shoes play mix with
    BPBP (bet P until win or until 2 banker loss)
    PPPP (Bet B once IN slot of 5)
    And it give more profits . I hope fathead can try it again with this and i curious what the results is. :D
     

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