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Sports Betting Robert (Bob) Dietz — Sports Handicapper

Discussion in 'Sports Betting Forum | Sportsbook Forum' started by RobSinger, Dec 22, 2021.

  1. RobSinger

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    Something to beware of now that redietz has brought his lying over here: because he believes he's one of these "sports handicapping experts" he is known to contact anyone he believes has money, through his friends, to sell them his wonderful picks. Of course, if he really knew his stuff, all he'd have to do is just bet more on them. But the sleazy ones need to sell picks for an income.
     
  2. redietz

    redietz Well-Known Member

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    I guess somebody could check the date, the time, and the NFL games listed on this post:

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?6817-NFL-Handicapping-The-Leader-is-Statistically-Killing-It

    Rob, I guess you missed out.

    I think it's great that Singer is here at Gambling Forums. He'll fit right in.

    Anybody who can show me selling anything via PMs or emails or phone calls or texts gets a 5K reward. That offer's been on the table for years.

    Just look me up, send me emails, call me, try to hire me. Good luck.

    Rob doesn't quite get it.

    But that's okay. Maybe he'll conquer baccarat.
     
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  3. Tater

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    I fill out those football contest every week. I reunited, after 50 years, with an old Coach and his wife. They come out a few times a year. She is a whiz at video poker. MickeyCrimm would be proud.

    I filled out a couple of football contest tickets for her. As usual, I threw mine away before the Sunday afternoon games. But she went 15-0 and 55 points on the MNF game that ended 30-23. She won $1000 in free play and turned that into $1235.

    ReDietz writes: I think it's great that Rob is posting at GF. He will fit right in.

    Tater says. I agree. As will Re Dietz.
     
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  4. RobSinger

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    And here we go again with redietz and his self-advertising so his pals can contact the readers her cherry picks and try to empty their bank accounts.

    Notice his foolish claim to "pay $5000 to anyone who produces proof of contact". I received several phone calls and texts from his pals who assist with the scheme. I don't keep junk. That's why he doesn't make the contact himself. Typical of all cowardly scam artists.

    Red's been challenged a dozen times on various forums to prove that he wins wins wins, yet it's always the same excuse: "Read my posts--they're THE TRUTH!". All this shows is how broke he is. Nothing can ever be verified on the internet. He always has excuses for that. I'll offer this: I'll pay $10,000 to redietz if he could prove that he's profitted ANYTHING over the past 40 years of lying about himself. And that DOES NOT INCLUDE the money he makes from his sleazy selling of picks.

    Wise up.
     
  5. RobSinger

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    Congrats to your wife!

    Good thing you mentioned that here and not on the other forum. The administrator there would have instantly been envious and said you fabricated the story. He protects the clowns. But mickey would have complimented you as well....and he would have been excoriated for doing so. Why? Because he's said ONE decent thing about me out of a thousand--and he clearly explained the intelligent logic he used--so they hold it against him. It's a hate & revenge-laced liars paradise, which is why I'll only make infrequent guest appearances going forward. (Watch me get banned...:) )
     
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  6. Tater

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    Da math? My lady seems to always be hitting jackpots. Texting me her winning tickets/machines. We she does lose she takes it in stride. Doesn't seem to very often. It works great for me. While she is playing I can watch the games. Plus my house is filling up with her free gifts.:D
    Can you imagine if I started in on her about math? She'd tell me to hit the road so fast my head would spin.

    My friend Joe seems to win one or two parlays a week. Often he will have a multi teamer and lose one game by a 1/2 point. He will bitch through the entire game. Thinks "they" are screwing him. Who is "they"? Considering he is 90, healthy, wealthy, and wise. He defies the math and has earned the right to do so.:D
     
  7. RobSinger

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    There, you have it right. People can and do win over any amount of time if they just simply play vp. The machines have no idea if you're an AP, if you just dropped in for a bit, or if you play nearly every week. Some people just hit more jackpots than others.

    The math is always at work for the casinos. It's there for the players too, only the players reside only within a tiny portion of the casinos' long-term. Where and when the jackpots hit inside that is anybody's guess.
     

  8. Tater

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    These people have a great outlook on life. A certain confidence (not arrogance). They like to have fun, tell jokes. But once they sit down to play they are all biz.

    Like the two minute warning/$11k. It's like sneeking up on a tiger.

    They seem to have an uncanny knack of knowing what machine they are looking for and certainty when they find it.
     
  9. redietz

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    So Rob, you're saying that there are other people who sell things for me, and I don't contact anyone, and never email anyone, and don't PM anybody, but these other people, who you don't name, are going around saying what? Buy R.E. Dietz's games? So then you buy games from people you don't know, and it's my fault because I'm profiting from people selling games? But you can't name anyone doing that, even though they contacted you. So they are anonymous people contacting you to sell you R.E.Dietz's games without R.E. Dietz being involved? Do I have that right?

    Ummm, that does beg the question of why would someone using my name without me then decide to give me money?

    Sounds complicated.

    Meanwhile, Rob fails to mention how the games in that VCT post did. Rob, did you forget to mention that? I'm surprised. Usually, you jump all over something like that. You're getting forgetful.
     
  10. redietz

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    Tater,

    Could you do me a favor and check up on how those games did at VCT? Here's the link again:

    https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?6817-NFL-Handicapping-The-Leader-is-Statistically-Killing-It


    I'm still trying to figure out what Rob is saying. Anonymous people contact him and try to sell him games that they say are coming from me? Why would anyone do that?

    Tater, help me out here. Why would anonymous people use my name to try to sell people games unless my name has some monster reputation? Strange stuff Rob is claiming. Maybe he can provide a name or email or contact number or something. I mean, I assume they didn't contact Rob telepathically, so he must have some kind of contact info.
     
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    Weird. Just plain weird

    This is what happens when you always get caught. Lie after lie after lie. If you knew what you're doing you'd have accepted my zero money challenge to post winners from 32 NFL games and I'd do the same. And the source for the lines for both of us would have been 100% yours since you're the "expert".

    But big surprise--you came up with excuse after excuse on why you were afraid to go up against an amateur like myself. Hell--you wouldn't even do it WITHOUT me!! Afraid to expose yourself as an out-and-out fraud.

    Post a link to ANYTHING you claim to have won over the past 40 years....not to some post on a forum that you created.
     
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    RE Dietz writes: I'm sitting 44th with a bunch of games left this week, including Raiders +6, Rams -4 1/2 and Eagles -5.

    Tater says: All 3 teams won and covered in Week 15. Is there something else I should be looking at?

    Question: Rams were -4.5. But jumped to -6.5 after schedule change. I ask the sportsbook and they said games must be played on the same day as stated. If it changes, the original is refunded and one must by another ticket.
     
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    Actually Raiders won 16-14. But ended up -3. But a shopper could've got a better price.
     
  14. redietz

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    https://www.playbooksports.com/Vegas-Wise-Guys/


    LOL.
     

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    That's an ad page. If you're supposed to be so well known then why are you digging back to 2017? The way you tout yourself there should be 40 years of flowing successes all over the internet.

    What people look for is verifiable information that supports your self-deceived reputation. Explain why you can't be verified. And as you've been instructed many times over, don't point us to these ads or drive us thru meaningless baloney like Typsters and Gypsters or Wiseguys, etc. Then explain why you were afraid to simply post 32 of your "can't lose" NFL picks BEFORE the games are played.
     
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    He can’t.
    He only posted Cincinnati at 150 to 1 as a win but neglected to mention the other outside teams backed that didn’t win. Granted he might be a Cincinnati good [removed, pay to advertise] boy that has been backing them every year for the last gazillion years and as luck has it , it’s a winner this time finally. But not worth the jerk off he was on in posting it . I think it was the vt thread. Personally I believe he hates mdawge because of mdawge writing style. Coke no ize writing is worse than spikes. At least spike has something of value regarding professional conduct and the implementation of procedures to beat a -ev game of roulette.

    No ize mmph nada. Cheers
     
  17. redietz

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    I might have wagered on 12 NFL sides this entire season. Betting 32 NFL games the last four weeks of a covid season is for addicts and amateurs. Only a moron would do that.

    "Tipsters or Gypsters?" was an annual publication in Las Vegas with weekly updates during the 80's and 90's. It was published by former Seattle Times reporter Mike McCusker, who was featured in a San Francisco Chronicle biography piece. "Tipsters or Gypsters?' compiled the plays of more than 100 sports services and printed the results in an annual format. At its peak, it had 150 sports services listed. McCusker also did consumer reporting in "Tipsters or Gypsters?" and wrote about the histories and customer experiences with various of the services. In addition, he listed multi-year records, so you could flip to the back pages and see two, three, and five-year cumulative records. He used Leroy's Sports Book Friday lines at a particular time of the day (I think 3 PM), because he felt that recreational bettors do very little during-week betting. Thus, people listed by McCusker were stuck with those Friday lines, so if anything, McCusker records were understating services' effectiveness.

    For those interested in the history of sports handicapping, I'll be starting up a thread both here and at VCT that lays out most of it, including famous biographies and how the field developed. I'll present pages from "Who's Who in Sports Gambling," the nationally distributed Playbook newsletter, "Tipsters or Gypsters?" and other documented sources of handicapping information. So stay tuned.
     
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    Well, if I listed Cincinnati after they made the playoff, there wouldn't be much of a trick to it. I listed them when they figured to have no shot. In fact, I reported both my Arizona State and Cincinnati futures during the season, when in fact ASU was already a bust.

    So you have an interesting theory there, but hard to see how it applies to me. Did you even read what I said when I said it? I suspect not. So why speculate about something you didn't even read?

    I think my quote when I reported the ASU and Cincinnati wagers was "They (the Bearcats) have as much chance as me stepping out with Elizabeth Hurley on Saturday night" and "this is why they call them long shots."
     
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    LOL. I was verified by the toughest sports service monitor for more than a decade. I have the print copies with all of my records (bad and good) listed in black and white. In addition, I can provide screen shots or photo copies of those reports on request. I was on television in the Satellite Cable Handicap out of Buffalo back in the 80's. And I was in 1984's Who Who in Sports Gambling.

    I have, however, never referred to myself as "well known." If you can dig up where you claim I actually used those exact words, please do so. Outside of the business, I'm very little known.
     
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    Bob. Question or opinion if you feel like offering it.

    I'm thinking about shutting down the entire NBA and NHL. NBA lines are jumping 5 or 6 points in a day.. Star players don't want to play back to back nights. Covid depletes roster. What used to be quick and easy is now time consuming and difficult.

    Any rules of thumb you employ in these changing times?
     
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