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Roulette Hedging in roulette and the absurd players that do it.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone, Oct 5, 2016.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Hedging...I swear it's the goofiest thing to watch. rolleyes.gif Every spin in the US begins with the players splitting the zeros, and then placing a chip on each zero independently. (As if splitting them isn't enough already.) rolleyes.gif

    And if the zeros hit and they're not on them, look out! "Oh, I always bet that number!"

    Gambler's are getting duMber and dUmBer! On the machines they are even simultaneously betting on both red and black with various amounts these days. No joke!

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    Also, let's not forget the retards with their three foot tall drinks that love to shout, "Winner winner chicken dinner," everytime they hit their bet on red for $5. rolleyes.gif
     
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    I saw someone bet on red and black at the same time (same amount). I had to laugh.
    He said "this way I can't lose".
    Wow.
    Just......wow
     
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    On a side note - I don't think that many people understand that putting $10.00 on red is the same as betting 55 cents on every red number thus beating the min. house limits. Think people dammit - think !.
    Imagine the progression you can make now.
     
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    or.....they put a nickel on every red number instead of putting it all on red.

    or.....they are betting on dozen 1 & 2. They split those zeros as INSURANCE (lol). It makes no difference if you split the 33/36 instead, no difference.

    or.....they split the zeros instead of straight up because (wait for it), they'll make more. "Its a rip-off betting them straight up".

    Fuck'em, let them be stupid, I lose nothing because of it.

    Ken
     
  5. Mickey Crimm

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    "I'm betting Red! Red has been up six times in a row. Red is hot! I'm betting Red!" said the first roulette player.
    "No, you idiot! Black hasn't been up for six times now! It's due to hit! I'm betting black!" said the other roulette player
     
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    @Turbo >> Better yet, I had this guy sitting next to me betting $300 on red and $300 on black every spin for two hours. Even though I was not on the zeros, I prayed every spin for a zero to hit. They did hit a few times, hahahaha

    Ken
     
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  7. redietz

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    Guys,

    Do people really do this stuff?

    Man, I live in the measured, rational world of sports betting. The last thing I expected from the alleged top notch gambling community was roulette system debating.

    Of course, the next to last thing I expected was people coming down on folks who make money gambling because we're not good for the karma of the world.

    Strange place.
     
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  8. TurboGenius

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    Anyone betting on both red and black at the same time, thinking they can't lose - is NOT making money. The only possible outcome that can happen is that they lose.
    Those are the people we can laugh at....people who have no idea what they are doing, don't care - and think they can preach to others who know even less...
    Strange indeed.
     
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  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    You just know they're going to play the triple zero roulette game because they've now got three times the chance to win on the green! Lucky!
     
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    The 0 and the 00 was the smartest move they ever made when it comes to roulette.
    So many people think that they are somehow different than the 1 or the 19 or the 34...
    they are "special numbers" to be played or not played for some specific reason that truly makes
    no sense.
    "Oh man.... this would have worked if it wasn't for that damn 00 being there" is what a person says
    who doesn't understand the basics of math.
    If they expanded the table and made a 37 and 38 spot instead of the 0 and 00 - there would be 1,000 less systems being made lol. It was pure genius.
    When they added the board that shows the past spins to everyone.... another stroke of "genius".
    "oh they do that so we system players can look and see what happened during the last bunch of spins - they are trying to help us out"... Really ? You believe this ? Please walk away from the table right now.
    Everything that is used to defeat the player even worse - works so well.
     
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    I was just commenting on this in other post. This people that bet on 31 and 11 because they start dating that date. The world is full of them. Therefore we, the ones who realy think the game trough should be more caregiving to each other. I posted my way. Where can i see your way of playing the game? Without that part of there is a secret to it.
     
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    This post is the only thing I could prolly agree with you @Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone. But everything else…naw!

    I never really see the point with hedging. The way I see it, if your confident in your methods you wouldn’t need to hedge.
    For me, that money that I hedged could’ve been applied to pressing my other straight up bets for extra profit.

    Funny story I wanna share cause I saw the pictures of the 3’ foot drinks which reminded me of something.
    Back in my mid-twenties a buddy of mine was getting married. He wanted to have his Bachelor party in Vegas. A lot of our friends never been to Vegas (I missed out). They were soo stoked when they landed.
    When they arrived back, they told me all the shit they did. But the funniest things were the pictures the first night in Vegas lol. I swear these pictures were pretty gay.
    Now Imagine a bunch of bros of 15+ people carrying 3’ drinks, asking each other “Can I try yours?” while walking strip.
    My brother ended up winning a few grand at roulette and recreated that bed scene in the movie Indecent Proposal with $20bills.
    Just wanted share lol.

    This thread is hilarious :joyful:
     
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    Countless times I've heard them called the casinos numbers and the casino does not want you to play them and there's some kind of a victory when they hit over the casino. The pockets are the same size as the other numbers, the payoff is exactly the same, they have their head up their ass because they obviously enjoy the view.
    On the Evolution wheel after every spin it lists the winners. And the list is always longest when the 0 hits. Suckers.. On the Bovada wheels you can see the ongoing chat and most of it consists of people begging for the zero to hit and getting pissed at the dealer when it doesn't and lavishing praise on them when it does. Can honestly say I've never bet the zero even once and I have no plans. I can't imagine why I ever would.
     
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    In RR you can make up "pet" groupings of your own on the inside. It's the size of the grouping that matters more than any shape used to make the sets in the groupings with. I used cutting the wheel like a pie with four zones at first. If you have four zones of three slots wide each then you have 12 numbers in that set. I used the zero & double zero. Now if you studied hot number hunting you would know that the two zeros go into and out of being hot or cold for a while. If you have sets that include the two zeros then they can be part of your 18, 19, or 20 in size sets as part of a unique group. In this way you can include them and still maintain your objective of play an Even Chance bet. You might have a run of luck going in the reds and at the same time have two cold-as-ice red numbers while the two zeros are hot. Say the #1 and the #19 were the coldest numbers and zero and double zero where part of the hottest numbers for 100 spins. And in that stretch red would go on streaks of consistent repeats. Now everybody is not created equal. They just might not have the brain capacity to track all that information and search for conditions of weakness or strengths. I computer can be used to determine significant trends in session flow. But your brain can be trained to do the same job if you include visual dexterity as a method of data tracking.

    If you have the brain power it is a "no brainer" to envision or devise a method to hunt the hottest and coldest numbers and to see all your grouping's figure formation configurations. I find that tracking the hottest and coldest numbers allows me to pull out two coldest numbers and include two hottest numbers in every one of my groups. This includes all table layout groups and all "pet" groupings. There is no excuse for ignoring what I just divulged. Turbo's threads on hottest numbers should at least tell you that you can have an advantage from knowing what is currently going on. The casino does not stand a chance from me. People have said that they don't like to play on busy tables on Saturday nights because it is so slow between spins. It takes time to evaluate conditional possibilities that are in your favor. I like to combine coincidence with multiple conditional realities. I have been doing my hunting like this for years. From that experience I have an an increased sense of knowing what typical changes are like as opposed to radical and outside the normal flow of changes occurring are currently like. Knowing things on this level, seeing very deep & wide into the data stream are part and parcel of being extremely skilled at RR.

    When people say I'm full of shit and that RR is baloney I know that they are just ignorant of what playing Roulette should be like to a person that thinks on multiple levels and multiple extraneous conditionality. There is a good reason that I get fatigued after a certain amount of time and that it takes me a day or two to recover. A huge session requires a break. It's not possible to over think this stuff. It's just more likely to perceive the data coming in wrong or to not see it at all. A skilled RR player has this capacity to see in the charts as a form of instant recognition. I have one chart that detects hottest and coldest numbers where I can see at a one or two second glance the hottest and coldest numbers. I have the second set of charts that show the trends and patterns that form and are detected by visual dexterity. Now for the bets part. I have divulged this level of understanding away from the RR thread on purpose. It is buried here in a single comment in an old thread that hides it well. This thread will soon become extinct again and this level of understanding will go unnoticed for a long time from people just wanting the quick fix to large success with this skill. So, perhaps, some of you might be detecting a theme going on here. I have hidden all the best secrets to RR. They are buried just like this all over the internet. All I'm doing is daring you to think. This is the only way I know how to share it and to protect it at the same time. Personal one on one lessons from me, face to face, are worth a lot of money. But I have chosen to do this a more difficult way, a little at a time, and hidden in small places all over the internet.
     
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    I have never bet an inside number in my life and I have no plans. I looked into it and it is far too volatile there just aren't enough betting opportunities to make it worthwhile for me. I'm all about the most betting opportunities possible in a really focused area, making one unit and getting the hell out. I'm not interested in fatiguing myself to the point that I need to take two or three days off to recover, that's counterproductive for me. Roulette is a game of precision for me, it's about focusing my attention like a laser in one area so I know what's exactly going on all the time. I am an absolute believer that multitasking is a myth. As soon as you take your concentration away from one area and share that concentration with another area you lose quality in both areas. If I try and look at three different areas in the roulette outcomes they all suffer. People who think they're multitasking and doing a great job are just fooling themselves.

    "The problem is, there's no such thing as multitasking. As multiple studies have confirmed, true multitasking—doing more than one task at the same time—is a myth. People who think they can split their attention between multiple tasks at once aren't actually getting more done. In fact, they’re doing less, getting more stressed out, and performing worse than those who single task. Once you start to make things more complicated, things get messier, and as a result, you’re going to start making mistakes.”

    My game improved 1000% when I started concentrating on just one small area.
     
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    Some sharp cats are playing the inside . Four ,numbers , 6 , 9 or 12 numbers contiguous neighbors.


    That requires skill.
     
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    No doubt, it just takes too long to play. Too much can go wrong the longer you play. I'm far more interested in striking fast and making my goal and quitting. This is the exact opposite of what the casino wants you to do a course, they want you to play and play and make mistakes and expose as much of your bankroll as possible to the house edge and your own fumbling and bumbling around. I don't care how good you are you're going to make mistakes and you're going to pay for those mistakes. You can never lose sight of the fact that it is the casinos game that you're playing
    and whenever you're playing someone else's game your guard has to be up at all times because there are traps everywhere. Who used to talk about the traps all the time, was it John Patrick? I don't remember..
     
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    Yeesssss! Totally get this. If playing in the comfort of your home probably much easier if you have pen & paper, or your software close by. In a scenario at a casino IF pen and paper are even still allowed at a roulette table but if it’s not a skilled player can still do without it, but it’s for sure mentally exhausting. It’s a reason I can’t stay no longer over an hour at a table. The longer I stay, I tend to get sloppy, once I get sloppy, I’ll make bad betting decisions, once I make bad decisions, the more frustrated I get, then I stray away from the game plan. It’s just a cycle of bad decisions after another. This is when self awareness needs to kick in, and I need to take a step back. Again, this something a player needs to develop on their own and it can’t be taught.
     
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    1 hour is about the limit that most people can keep their concentration intact. I can feel mine start to fade after about 45 minutes and after an hour I'm done. My concentration is shot. If somebody tells you they can concentrate longer than that they're kidding themselves or their kidding you. It's why casinos give dealers a break about every 45 minutes to an hour because they lose their concentration and they start making mistakes on payouts that cost the casino money. There is one Indian casino I got to that actually gives the dealers a 20-minute break every 20 minutes they are so worried about dealer mistakes.
    People will say oh yeah? Well I can drive for hours on the freeway just fine. But you aren't concentrating when you drive on the freeway your subconscious is doing all the driving. This is why you can't remember anything from the last 10 miles because you weren't paying attention at all let alone concentrating. Actual real concentration on every outcome in roulette and on the system your playing takes a huge amount of brain power and you can only do that for a very short length of time before you start to make mistakes.
     

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