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Roulette One hitter quitters

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Denzie, Dec 31, 2021.

  1. Platton

    Platton Active Member

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    Hi, Gary. Of course I want to! Just what kind of angle are you working on? I really want to join. I've wanted to write something a lot of times, but it just didn't work out. Therefore, of course I apologize, but probably a lot will be written again. Sorry about that. But I want to say what I have and move on, Hopefully together.

    Thanks Chain:
    I want to convey a chain of gratitude. It so happened that first of all you. Because you made me pay closer attention to everything where Denzi wrote, raising Turbo topics. Yes, I read them (only Denzi's posts) before the new year, but I didn't read all these topics completely. That's what I think and wanted to draw Denzi's attention to. And, accordingly, Denzi himself, of course, and Turbo himself.

    As for the topics read. I started from other places, and I'm glad I did it from that place. After the beginning of the year, while thinking and testing, why did the idea of splits come to me. I remembered Eugene, who wrote this here not so long ago. I won't say that I saw something there, although the idea still remains. But there was a Turbo link, which I had already followed then, but did not study. This time I decided to read everything there. Hell, I saw Denzi there too, back in 2015. If it was his real photo, where he is sitting on the street in a cafe and or in a bar with black glasses. I didn't imagine him like this))) From there was another link to an even more past. Damn it, I left back in 2007, where Turbo was already promoting the same idea. I just started my roulette journey this year. I remember reading in one book (just a novel, not about roulette) where the hero was talking about martingale in a roulette game. At that time, we still had a mini-casino in our city (they have been banned everywhere for a long time now), and I went every morning to play air roulette on martingale. Well, the bottom line I think you know))
    Nevertheless, in the end, thanks to you, Gary, I read all these topics that Denzi raised. I didn't even know they were there. Oh, if they were then, a year and a half ago, when I was in great strength to do something, and did... I did a lot... but I did everything wrong... But what we have, that we have...
    Okay, this is about the latest developments. And they were very helpful, thanks to many of you. Thanks again!
     
  2. Platton

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    Now about what is not yet direct to this topic, although we will find out later, but what I wanted to write many times, what I had.

    I wrote thanks to Gigi, for his March teaser. In general, this is in the topic about the 50/50 bet. Where it was about the streets. But after many different tests, in the end I realized that I still need to always play on numbers. And Gigi then put forward the idea of fr ... I call them dozlum (4 numbers in a dozen and a column, for example 2-5-8-11). And I tested the same idea 50/50 in doslums on numbers, including and studying here the table that Turbo posted there. Damn, I finally understood her. And trying to remember Lotte and not bet on the last one that didn't fall out... This "don't bet on the last thing that didn't fall out", I was never able to fully implement it. However, the tests were very good. I just did in my collected numbers from real roulette, for which I always test more than 1000 chips flat bet. This has never happened before. But then I couldn't figure out how I did it?)))

    However, I'm starting to see some more things that I think are very strong. When I bet on two numbers from the doslum, and 3 numbers fell out, depending on the situation based on the table, I removed the bet from these numbers. But during such tests, I began to notice that after dropping 3 numbers in the dose, the 4th number soon also dropped out. I started researching this, and even logically, when 3 numbers out of 4 fall out, in any case, it's better to then put on 1 number than on 3. In general, I added this to my tests and the result was much better. But there were also large drawdowns due to these numbers that have not yet fallen out. I understood that here, too, the same conditions apply: "do not bet on what has not yet fallen out." But these numbers gave a good profit in. And with multiple tests, I realized that a trigger was needed. And that was fine. In general, there could be only one trigger based on the lott - when I bet on this unhit number, but one of others 3 numbers appearing earlier - then this unhit number is removed. It seemed to work well.

    But more importantly, I think it's a different trigger. Which I observed a couple of months before this forum, and Turbo tests, respectively. At that time, as usual, I was testing Vaddy, at that time there was an idea related to the streets, I even then I observed that the numbers from the street, if they start to fall, often fall in a short interval from each other. But I couldn't investigate it then, and then I found Turbo and his ideas, and another game started. But in the end, she led me to the same thing anyway.
    A lot of things began to merge into one. Here I begin to remember the 8 spins of Vaddy, although many have been talking about them for a long time. Twoup said the same thing when he posted about 7 rotations and after it is not visible on the forum. And I have already written that Eugene said the same thing in part 3, answering whom, saying and showing that there were repetitions falling in a short interval, and he said that the nature of random is such that repetitions will fall next to each other. You can also recall a video about randomness, which was posted many times, where one of the examples was about playlists in iPods, where they showed an example that with randomness, as it is, songs from the same playlist were played from 3 completely different playlists, and moreover, one after another from the same playlist was played. And after that, the apple made it less random))

    Therefore, I suggest checking it out to absolutely everyone who is interested. It's very simple. Take absolutely any numbers. It can be 3 numbers, maybe 4, maybe 5 or 6 or more. This is your group of numbers. Any choose. In the end, I probably forgot to say that I think the best thing that can be for a group of numbers is 8 spins. Or 4 spins, like Vaddy's, but it needs to be tested. In general, we take 8 spins for our selected groups of numbers. Let's say you took 4 numbers (the more the better, as Turbo wrote in one of his topics), when 2 is apperaing, you bet on the remaining 2 numbers for 8 spins. If thery don`t apperaring, you remove bets from them. If later the 3rd number will be apperaring, you can also bet on the last number for 8 spins. If then, when we bet on 2 numbers and one of them apperaring in 8 spins, then continue to bet on the last one for 8 spins. It's very simple, and the effectiveness is in the fact that there is always a limit on a small number of rotations, based on the fact that 8 rotations act not only on repetitions, but also on a group of numbers that most likely work because of randomness. Although I do not know why, but it is. But the most important thing, I think, is to learn how to use it for groups of repeaters, which I have not yet learned how to choose.
     
  3. Platton

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    Although all this happened in September, but at the same time in September, this very abundant discussion began. Where, on the one hand, there was not a little useful, but on the other hand, mostly only swearing between the participants. But, at the same time, Turbo published part 4. And since I had already tested the doslums, and even then I thought that it would be necessary to test the horse racing on the doslums separately, and not the whole table. And after the 4th part, I realized that I needed to switch back to horse racing tests, only this time on the dozlums. But soon he also published a thread about the minimum interval, where I spent about a month on this and almost all the free features in RX. But it didn't give me anything. Okay. Then, as a result, and still I test racings on dozlums.
    And so I would like to draw attention to one more aspect before we return to this topic. This is part1.

    I don't remember why or how, but I remember for sure that it became so obvious during the tests that some kind of trigger is needed in order to either change the race leaders or remove them. I don't remember how it hit my head, but I remembered about part 1. Before, I didn't understand what Denzi was writing about, that it works perfectly with these races. Why did I think only that it indicates the progression that Turbo had in the example. But then in September, when I went in and read again, I realized that he meant the Turbo betting method, only applying it to repeats. Then Mako pointed out the same topic, and I thought like this: "No, he will show everyone the way now," because for me it has become a strong value in deciding bets. And nbn, too, then wrote everything about this part repeatedly, while adding a message to 9, but I didn't see anything special there, except for mentioning and pointing to the test in the 60s video about ticks. Which of course is the strongest key, but I still don't know how to relate it to roulette. Turbo promised to explain how it relates to roulette, but I think this will never happen. I understand.

    Like I said. Now I have a very clear idea that when playing horse racing, there must be a trigger when changing the race leader to a non-leader (or another leader) or removing him altogether. Without this, there is no way to win these races. And after reading all those old and very old messages and topics, I was convinced of this once again. Although of course Turbo wrote about 3 fallacy that need to be excluded, and one of them is triggers. Of course, I was very confused when I read it on that forum, but the same topic is here. But it's just a matter of terminology, as for example with past rotations, when Rona did not agree with this, but in my opinion she did not understand what Turbo meant. So, when Turbo talked about triggers, he meant a trigger based on the expectation of what would happen in order to place a bet later. Here I may agree, but on the other hand, I just thought, that today I just wrote about this above about an example of a group of numbers))) But, nevertheless.
    And when I talk about triggers, I mean about what should happen already during betting. I think Turbo and others, "who found", say that these are not triggers, but the math and perhaps "limit of random". I don't know either of them, that's why I use the word "trigger".

    Once again - the only trigger for racing that I understand is part 1. I still can't learn how to choose the numbers from the doslums for racing, and from what I even understand and can, it would be hard to play in a b&m casino, but with the first part, it would be easy.
     
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  4. Platton

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    Good. Now back to this thread.
    Of course, I also tested what Denzi suggested, but I didn't test the whole table. Well, at least this has already been tested many times, and secondly, after all the Turbo topics raised by Denzi, and in almost every thread, and even threads from other forums, Turbo talks about the idea of playing on a part of the table. And that's 12 numbers. So of course I tested only 12 numbers on 1 dozen. Reset at a new high. As a result, at a certain stage, it was defeated.

    On the other hand, Denzi's bid itself is also questionable. After so many years of different testing, I understand that this kind of bet is initially doomed. After the second cycle, with a small drop in our numbers, it is almost impossible to reach a new high. Again. With this method of betting.
    Therefore, of course, I don't understand much, how to use this here? Although I certainly trust Denzi. And we need to find out.
    At the same time, when I tested the DC for non-dropped ones, and I myself came to the conclusion, if you remember, that a group of numbers with a positive progression is needed. And as I found out the other day, Turbo wrote about it many times and everywhere. In particular, in the thread about progression. That the positive progression is needed in order for it to balance the numbers on which we made a mistake. Well, it's logical enough who tested it.

    Therefore, I do not know why Denzi brought this particular method of betting? Just for the sake of an example? But not as it should be. Or vice versa something else? It's not clear yet.
    I think it is necessary to test the bets with a positive progression, as Turbo says. Next. Bet selection. I have no idea how to do it? But after everything I read the other day, I think that you need to bet on 12 numbers. After Denzi's test of what he provided, I realized that there was also no point in playing one dozen, because it just lost when one of the dozens did not fall out for a long time. Therefore, at this time you need to be on the whole table. This is where the dozlums will be needed. It is necessary to learn how to choose either one of the dozlums in a dozen, or just 4 numbers in each dozen. But I think it's much easier with dozlums.
    That is, once again. 12 numbers for the whole table. 4 numbers in each dozen are either somehow easy to choose 4 numbers, or to choose the dozlums and grate in their numbers. Positive progression. Reset at a new high.
    In general, you need to learn to be in profit every time, as Denzi said. This is what we keep at the forefront. But in what way? We need to test it.
     
  5. GaryG

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    One thousand spins in and it looks good.

    @Denzie hope everything is going well for you bud.
     
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  6. Denzie

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    Everything going as it should here....up up up
    Happy to see you're doing great :)
    (Get ready for many cats asking to code for you while they can't...be careful)
     
  7. Jefra

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    Hi Denzie
    I thought you are on gambling trip abroad.
     

  8. Denzie

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    Who said I'm not ? I'm in South East Asia for the moment....

    And please stop sending those emails dude....you want help ? Read what I've wrote in the "remember Ralph " thread. I guess most cats didn't see it....
     
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    I am sorry, but it looks that noone paid any attantion how Ralph was playing because he made a few mistakes in that example AND he did not remove repeaters, so his way is not same way as One Hitter Quitter. And there was also mentioned how to play Part 3, which again has nothing to do with one hitter quitter.

    Denzie, forget all and continue enjoy on vacations.
     
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    Bingo
     
  11. Naughty but nice

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    Part 3?
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    Now 20 spins and profit, not with part 3. Wonder why?
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    By spin 10 could have had 1 repeat; but none had repeated.
    It now depends on what riddle you use. Do you bet straight away, which was quoted over at RF forum. Or do you wait as only at expectation (math) bollox.
    Spin 20; have had 3 repeats.
    So even if you wait till R1, top3. No win. But those in the know; reply 9, but would it give you a profit.

    This stream for the gormless, DSAA; has repeats -1. If it remains -1 at 30, then there will be 5 repeats in spins 21-30
    Will top 3 be hot?
     
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    Still a profit, but spin 30 was another non-hit. So 6 non-hits showed not 5. It now shows repeats are 7; -2.
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    Again, if at spin 40, the repeat score is -2, 14 repeats. Then there must be 7 repeats. Will they come from top 3 or 4-5-6
    Then it could be 13 repeats -3 Then the non-hits have been fast.
     
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    Okay 3 spins to come but I'm at 91 units. Of the 7 spins, 6 have been repeats. Spin 31 was the 24th non-hit.
    If at spin 40; there's still 24 of the starting 37, then there must be 16 repeats.
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    It's been -1; -1 & -2. Now as I don't have a time machine or crystal ball. Would you rely on top 3 or 4-5-6
    Or just take the profit. I'll take the 91, but i'll show the result of the 40 spins.
     
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    Good to have stopped the 25th non-hit. #2
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    39 spins and had 14 repeats. Now will another of the remaining non-hits show, if it does then repeats will be -2
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    The stream ended 25/15 repeats. Is there an advantage?
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    Just watch non-hits over 40 spins 9-7-5-3
    or Repeats 1-3-5-7
    Or as Herbie said use your "Gamblers Intelligence"
     
  17. Naughty but nice

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    Here you can follow the 1-3-5-7
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    Now riddler can say, can you see the advantage?
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    Some streams favour repeats, other times it's non-hits, or the stream can throw both at you.
    So remember 1-3-5-7
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    TurboGenius and denzie, thanks for all the clues. I believe I have it and I can only see it fail if the game is NOT random. Appreciate everything!
     
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