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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I'll definitely play roulette. That is, if I own the wheel and I bank the game. However, if you own the wheel, say a single zero wheel, offer me 38 for 1 on winning numbers and I'll play you until the cows come home. Offer me 39 for 1 on a double zero wheel and I'll do the same.
     
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  2. SPIKE

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    I play on whatever wheel the online casino is offering. In my state it's both one zero and two zero wheels depending on the casino.
     
  3. Mickey Crimm

    Mickey Crimm Well-Known Member

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    So you bet streaks, eh? The streak you see is in the past. Has no bearing on the future. That little ball on the roulette wheel doesn't have a memory. And your memory don't mean jackshit. If black hits 5 times in a row or 10 times in a row the expectation on the next spin is still 48.6% for black to show on a single zero wheel. Every spin of the wheel is an independent event. But you are saying the expectation is higher than 48.6% because of what happened in the past. What happened in the past has no bearing on the future no matter how much you insist that it does.

    I know you are married to thinking you can beat the game. But if it were true you would have made multi-millions of dollars by now. What are you doing? Cutting the casinos a break?
     
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  4. SPIKE

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    Never have I said that or implied it. What I'm saying is you can use past spins to make an educated guess as to what the next outcome might be. The ability to do this comes from years of observation. You learn how to read the random outcomes and learn how they behave under certain circumstances. I have a certain game that I play and I track the outcomes and if they are playing my game in that period of time it's probably safe for me to make a bet. Quite often it's not playing my game and that would be a very bad time to bet. Knowing when not to bet is actually more important. It keeps your bankroll intact.[/QUOTE]
     
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  5. SPIKE

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    That is exactly what happens if you as a player at certain times have an edge that's better than the casinos edge. During that time they are at your mercy because they have no choice, they have to take your bet even when you have the edge. During that time you in effect are the owner of the wheel.

    You keep mentioning like everybody else does that a person should be rich if they've beaten roulette. If I had discovered roulette in my twenties things probably would have went differently. But I was 55 years old when I started doing this and it took me a couple more years before I got halfway decent at it and by then I was almost 60. All my get-up-and-go had got up and went. I already had everything I wanted, why should I bust my ass in a place that I hated, the casino, just to prove something. Also, I am not a gambler, never been a gambler, have no desire to ever be a gambler. I don't have a drive in me to win win win. Being a gambler yourself I'm sure you have no idea what I'm talking about. Because you're an obsessive gambler all you see is the pot full of gold at the end of the rainbow. That's all you'll ever understand. Look at somebody like Edward Thorp. He could have made a fortune playing Blackjack because nobody had caught on yet what he was about to put in his book. But he didn't do that, he's not a gambler. He wrote a book instead which almost 50 years later has still not sold a million copies. By comparison a new Stephen King book will have a million copies ordered before it's even published. Yes I just compared myself to Edward Thorp, get over it.
     
  6. Mickey Crimm

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    The random outcomes you observed were in the past and have no bearing on the future. No matter what you say you can't out guess or beat the probability of the game.
     
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  7. Mickey Crimm

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    You say you "beat roulette every night" but you are not a gambler?

    I'm a gambler in the same sense that the casino owner is a gambler. He/she is just on a larger scale than me. I hold the edge. When you hold the edge and are properly bankrolled you are not really gambling. I absolutely will not play without a mathematical advantage.

    It's taking candy from a baby. And I don't see a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I see the pot of gold I own because of the money I made gambling. I never had shit until I learned advantage gambling.

    People were beating blackjack before Thorp. He just exposed to the world that it could be done. But your point is also irrelevant.
     
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  8. SPIKE

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    My interpretation of the past outcomes most certainly has a bearing on where I place my bet. Let me give you an extreme example. There has just been 25 Reds in a row. On spin number 26 a black number appears. And yes I have seen as many as 29 red numbers in a row. Past spins have no influence on future outcomes but wouldn't you say that this might be a good time to start betting on black. Maybe it's not, maybe there will be 25 more Reds in a row. But from my years of observation this has never happened. The vast majority of the time red will be done for a while. Now imagine that you have a whole bagful of things you've learned from observation over the years and you use this information to make educated guesses. Don't you think that just might give you an edge? Let me answer that for you, of course it gives you an edge.
     
  9. SPIKE

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    Correct. It's not gambling when you are 80% sure of what the next outcome will be. Gambling is when you have no idea what's coming and you bet your money anyway. I don't gamble.

    What did I just say.

    Yes, he interviewed some of them for his book. But it was a tiny tiny number of people and they begged them not to write the book because it would ruin the game for them. And of course it did. Point is he could have made millions before he wrote his book and he chose not to do that because he didn't want to spend years in shitty depressing casinos because he was not a gambler. Just like I am not a gambler.
     
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  10. Mickey Crimm

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    You claim that the number or color will land at a higher frequency than what the odds say. You are claiming to be clairvoyant at roulette. But the events are all independent of each other. And gaming regulations state that no event can have an effect on another event or it's not random. You are claiming that random is not random.
     
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  11. Mickey Crimm

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    Where random numbers are involved all of your observations of past events have no impact on future events. All events are independent of each other. But keep fooling yourself.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    Pot, Kettle, Black

    I have a much better memory than you. I can remember when I see a win streak. You can't even see one. LOL
     
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    I'm grateful that you believe these things. I like it when someone like you has a greater need to dress up in a Spandex suit and wear a cape and a mask. You are trying to impress any gullible sucker that you are the truth adviser to be aware of.

    I believe that the wheel will perform as the odds say that they should. It is your magical belief that you project your impression and treat is as a reality. The number will land at the expected frequency in long run samples. But that wrecks your Spandex trip going on here. You need people to believe you. Only if they use their own minds they will see that you are just living in your own delusion. As I have made clear to anyone watching me respond to you, you can't see win streaks or losing streaks because a magical math has you looking at one spin at a time and the odds are that any bet selection should lose more often than not at one spin at a time. So that makes you the king of all understanding when it comes to losing. You know how to lose and you want others to know that you are the expert at it. You refuse to deal with streaks. Somehow they magically don't exist in your world.

    So let's look at the claim of foretelling. It only takes a room temperature IQ to see sequences of spins as phases of conditional coincidences. There is no magical power claimed. You see when your bet selections are in a strong phase of working in a cluster for you or you see that your bet selections are not in a favorable phase. This does not take magic. So this knowledge that is the real truth makes you look like a grandstanding know-it-all on your soapbox showing off your shining suit in Save-The-World crusader meme. You need it to be the false truth that you believe because that argument you can defend. You can't make an argument that deals with the truth. I could say that you eat rat meat for dinner and you could not prove that you don't. But I have no problem showing that you depend on lies to impress people. You have a long ways to go. You are the king of losing.
     
  14. gizmotron

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    You are 100% right, "past events have no impact on future events." Now if you only understood that. It's like saying a cat on the roof is not the same as flying a kite. You should go fly a kite.

    I will lose the correct mathematical number of bets in any session of Roulette and I will almost always win every session in what I take from the casino. This is done by knowing when to bet bigger. That knowledge is something you can't believe in. So you are a jack-ass and like it. If you can't do it then nobody can do it.
     

  15. gizmotron

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    That little ball is right next to your little dick.

    That streak in the past and present has bearing on the next spin. It will reveal if a condition has continued or if it has ended. That knowledge has meaning. I don't care what is going to happen in two or three spins coming up. I just care about the very next spin only. It tells me if it is still working or if it has stopped working. There is no magical prediction being depended on in this skill. But I know you think that I'm claiming that skill so that you can be right. Deal with it.
     
  16. gizmotron

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    No. I'm not saying that. You are saying that. You are saying that because you need to be right. This would suggest that your mother still dresses you. I'm saying that.

    But this is what you actually believe. Your magical math prevents Red form occurring 15 times in a row. Your magical math has no power to predict 15 Reds in a row. So based on that assumption nobody can make more money off of 15 Reds in a row. That's the world that you are an expert in. LOL
     
  17. EvenBobIsStoopid

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    Is it possible that gizmotron is stupider than EvenBob? More research needed, but initial indicators suggest a strong possibility.

    I love these delusion morons. Without them it would be extremely difficult to skim money off the top of the pool of cash they helped create at every casino across this great nation.
     
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  18. SPIKE

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    I just explained it to you in some detail but you don't want to hear it you just want to keep believing that you know what you're talkin about. All you're doing is repeating the mathboyz talking points that you've heard for years. That will get you nowhere fast.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    Still Loving your name, EB. Good choice. The casino seems to like my delusion because they pay me every time I play. Theirs is the only opinion that counts in the end. If there was such a thing as less than nothing, that's what you're ridiculous opinion would be worth. You're ridiculous uninformed and yes, stupid opinion.
     
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