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Baccarat Player Shoe

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by fathead, Feb 26, 2022.

  1. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Tough Shoe if you were on Banker. :) I was looking around at the other tables this morning after my session and saw this one.

    Player Shoe.jpg
     
  2. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    My bets flat style wouold have captured a nifty .85 units for that mess, hey hey.
     
  3. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    Happy for you but I don't see how. LWLWW or some combination I guess. I know you flat bet banker against the player streaks. I cannot see what you are doing.
     
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  4. Chip Magnet

    Chip Magnet Active Member

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    I play Stadium Interblock, sit out most hands, and bet Banker only. If I saw that pattern, I would have walked.

    Saw this on the display when I walked in yesterday. Anyone can guess what my first bet was.

    BPBBBPBBBBPPPBBPBPPBBBPPBPPBBBPBBBPPPBPBPBPBBPBBPBBBPBPBPPBPBPBPBPBBPPBPPPBBBBBBPPPBPPBPPBPBPPBPBBBPBBPPBBBBPPBBBBBPB
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    May be Soxfan could be able to give more details about his 85 unit win.


    Something does not add up.
     
  6. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I am curious, Sox, how many bets did you make during the shoe?
     
  7. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    fathead, the problem is and always have been that no one tells where, why and when to place bets.
    99% of all topics is about empty words and empty claims.

    This is why my respect goes to Junket King, you, Jimske and a couple of others.
    Some choose to contribute in private conversations and some choose public conversations.

    My play and results playing your shoe = W W W W LW

    And I can describe where and why and when placed bets were done.

    Cheers Patrik
     
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  8. cps10

    cps10 Well-Known Member

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    Most people are full of crap. That’s why they make false claims. I will tell you in detail what I am doing as I have before. There are very few of us. Patrik you can add your name to that list you just named. Thank you to those who do contribute!
     
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  9. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    That looks like a good shoe for you. :) How do you like the Interblock? That is a robotic dealer, right?
     
  10. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    You are very kind, Patrick. The casino makes enough money so I contribute when I can. I don't always understand your strategies but read them with interest. You did well in that shoe.

    I play almost every morning now. I did not bet the shoe that I posted. When I first saw it, I thought that I would have lost money for sure on that one. I don't always play each shoe in the same fashion but after playing this shoe 3 different ways I made money each time. My first judgement was wrong.

    Banker and Follow the Last test the best (lose the least) so I would have started with FTL and done well but after that 2nd Player streak the Player percentage was above 70% so I would have focused on mainly Banker bets after that. There was a Violater Player bet towards the end which lost both the initial and recovery bet as well. I usually bet those. If I have 3 losses in a row I pause and look for a re-entry point. If I lose again, I pause again. This is what would have saved me.
     
  11. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    I have come across many people who think they have beaten the game (baccarat / roulette / craps) but they have just had a run of luck or have done very limited testing. Others know they cannot and sell their ideas to make money. Others still are just arrogant, narcissistic blowhards who live in some alternate reality they have invented in their own minds.
     
  12. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    And I must add that I have seen some people that win almost every time they play. I think they just see things that others don't without realizing what exactly they are doing. Years of experience and you pick up on little things, I suppose. I am working towards joining their ranks. :)
     
  13. soxfan

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    That's .85 units profits, not 85 units profits, hey hey.
     
  14. soxfan

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    I woulda make 12 real cake wager in that particular shoe, hey hey.
     

  15. soxfan

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    Proficient 21 card counter got a verify edge and they sometimes go weeks or even months in the red. But these baccarat cats with all kinda sibjective shoes readings, trendings combine with the ever present money managements claim to never ever have losings session and never gotta face any adversity at the table are in my opinion full of bulls-shits and nonsenses, hey hey.
     
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    Proficient 21 card counter got the verify edge yet they sometimes spend weeks or even months in the red. So, these baccarats cats what make the scene with the long talks about how they never have the losings session and never face any prolong adversity at the tables cuz of their subjective shoes reading, trendings, and the amorphous money managements are imho full of bull-shits, and nonsenses, hey hey.
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    I would suggest reading Soxfans explanation om post # 13.
     
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  18. fathead

    fathead Well-Known Member

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    So you are not flat betting any more?
     
  19. Chip Magnet

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    I prefer it to a table. Fast game, and easy to sit out hands. Nearly all the players at these games, sit out multiple hands.

    The console shows the past 150 hand results. If I don't like what I see, I can easily find another Bac game, or avoid making certain bets.

    Interblock, where I play, is RNG, using an eight deck virtual shoe. Two hands per minute. They switched from real cards a few years ago, due to frequent malfunctions. I only play Interblock or Dynasty, which like EZ Baccarat, doesn’t charge a commission, but pushes a three-card 7 Banker win instead, Slightly lower house edge of 1.02%. I never play Shufflemaster.
     
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  20. Jimske

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    Yup, good shoe for your march. EZ PZ.

    OTH for fun and games my flat bet mechanical which wins any extreme or patterned shoe goes like this:
    L WWW L WWWWWWW L WW L WWWW L WWWW LL WWW LL WWW L W L

    and yeah I played this for many years AND, I still use it on a more limited basis. It wouldn't have mattered if it was extreme B or P but the key is if the singles conformed then no matter what happens it would be hard to lose.
     
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