Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

A rational thinking person with a critical mind is not a zombie. It's impossible to guess the extent a fool will go to decieve themselves and others.

If you want people to accept or believe in something that is not supported by math, (and not just a simple basic understanding of math or probability which is the typical myopic understanding found on gambling forums), then you're just either a charlatan, a moron or both.

If you can't describe your method on a page for everyone to understand and then back it up with supporting math then you're actually full of bullshit.

If it's too hard, too difficult to explain or too complicated, and just too hard for you to anchor to math, then again you implicate yourself in a deception, be it self deception or group deception.

You now have the floor to explain the crux of your method on a page, back up with the math.

Either put up or shut up and quit with the handwaving. Explain it, prove it.

 

If you're going to try to figure this out with math, you'll never get anywhere. It has nothing to do with math. It's like driving a car in heavy traffic on the freeway, you do it effortlessly because of experience and training. Math has nothing to do with it. I can make a good educated guess in roulette because I have a ton of experience with previous outcomes, I know pretty much what is going on most of the time. What it means is I know when not to bet, and I know when the outcomes are playing my game and it's a good time to bet. Math people have two strikes against them, they are starting with a huge disadvantage. They've been taught that math solves everything. Only roulette is not a math game, just cuz you can apply math to it does not make it a math game. I'm terrible at math, in fact I hate math, and I beat roulette every time I play it because it's not a math game. I taught myself how to single out certain parts of the game that I'm really good at making guesses about and only bet when the outcomes are playing those games and not betting the rest of the time. Every professional player will tell you knowing when not to bet is 90% of it. My biggest problem now is not making bad guesses, it's making wrong bets because these damn online casinos only give you 20 seconds to make your decision and make the bet.

 

Screw you and die. I could care less what you need. Fucktards don't get to command what they demand. You are nothing but an over impressed with yourself academic simpleton with just enough credentials to make you a functionary. I could easily show you a single example of reading randomness and you would take it and prove you are right. You are all prepared to prove it has no merit. It's people like you that run things. MathZombies are just people that have already made up their minds what is what and they can't be bothered. Well I'm the one that decided to take the control of information and disclose it the way that I wanted to. I did it this way in order to share it and keep it for my own personal use at the same time. So you must work your ass off to learn its secrets.

It's a gambling forum. Nobody is expected to give away the Holy Grail. It's never been done on a gambling forum before. A way to beat Blackjack was published in a book by a math professor from MIT back around 1961. It's called "Beat the Dealer." Ed Thorp gave it away his way and the gambling world went crazy. I used the mathBoyz to flip out for 15 years in order to mask it and discredit it while sharing it. The only one that went crazy was me. I controlled the flow of information and how obnoxious it became over the decades. I made it an unbelievable myth. I used the intellect and human nature of people as a weapon against themselves in order to protect it and share it at the same time. It's all documented. It was shared as hints until 3 years ago. The work of explaining it is done. I don't have to baby feed you just because you are a beggar. Perhaps someone will feel sorry for you and give you baby steps. Spike just told you and you are still clueless.

Someday someone from the math world will have to make a formula or algorithm that explains the advantages of conditional coincidental opportunity. It's not as elegant as folding space and new understanding of gravity but it does mess completely with those imbeciles that flog absolutism in the statistics community of frequentist mathematicians. How do you like my BS now? It's very good bullshit. You are supposed to see it as a scam. You are functioning perfectly. Reward yourself and get a new red Spandex suit with a shiny black cape. That's a good look for a savior of the world.

 

Pretty much what I expected, magnamous handwaving nonsense. You have no value to provide anyone, let's face it you're an abject failure.

Math can explain the evolution of the entire cosmos, quantum mechanics, physics, chemistry, biological processes, protein folding and protein synthesis, land us on the moon, sends probes to distant planets and beyond the solar system, provide incredible wireless communication systems that extract high bandwidth signal from noise, 4G/5G and wifi.

And you say it can't be used to model the outcomes of 37 possibilies on a roulette wheel.

Pull the other one. We call your kind wankers here.

 

I understand that you're saying the insights are found beyond math and that may be true for many people, but not everyone. I agree that ideas often come far from any mathematical method but through experience and observation and light bulb moments. That's part of being creative and solving problems. But math can then be used to validate those ideas, used as an analytical tool to ensure we are not decieving ourselves by thinking we have something significant when it's just an illusion and doesn't actually hold water. Many people keep trying and failing and ploughing though bankrolls before they give up on something and then chace the next shiny thing because they don't have the skills it methods to use math to analyse an approach or idea.

Math can help either validate or refute the wishful thinking and provide answers to questions such as how much bankroll will I really need to survive certain events, and how often can those events be expected to occur. Knowing this one can optimise their unit size based on the risk and worst case drawdown and grow their bankroll faster. It's all math when you want to get serious about it.

But I disagree that this is some kind of next level hard problem for mankind and that it cannot be modelled and reasoned about with math. Math is used to solve and describe problems that are far more complex than roulette betting methods.

Any method that can be described in a way that a rational person can replicate can be modelled with math. Even if it's an unexplainable feeling thing then it can be modelled with a hidden Markov model, provided enough observations, which I've used with success to model the behavior of financial markets.

Your example of driving, we are using math to do that now. Very soon level 5 autonomous cars will start to replace manually driven vehicles because math can do that. Self driving cars without steering wheels, but we can't model and analyse your roulette betting method?

In the infamous words of Biden, C'mon Man.

 

TwoUp, you're wasting your time with these characters. They've been spouting the same garbage for YEARS on the forums. They're not even deluded, just trolls and attention seekers hiding behind fluff and nonsense disguised as some kind of insight into random outcomes. Ironically, if they understood even a little math they would know how ridiculous their claims are to those who aren't so ignorant.

 

Thanks MJ, I am violent agreement.

I can't believe I'm actually arguing the definition of random with the "enlightened reading random one". He acts like some swami guru with his acolytes in training.

 

Hey TwoUp, You just don't get it yet. What do you know about the Lick Observatory's expedition to Goldendale Washington back around 1918? That was proof after the math was known. Reading Randomness is proof before the math is known.

You want it all wrapped up? Find out how RR works, as the self teaching thread describes and recommends. Practice until you have mastered its basic function. Learn from what Spike has shared. Then, and only then, convinced by the proof, set out to invent the as yet unknown math. You can stop with the condescending magnanimous[sp] posturing that you think qualifies you to succeed by being obnoxious. If that won't satisfy you then you must wait until some mathZombie does it for you. You know you are too smart to be suckered by that. So bugger off.

 

Oh so its handwaving and mysticism, kinda like reading tea-leaves or tarot cards but repurposed to roulette? Hmm interesting, there's a few people on here who might be into that.

But for me, well you see, it's not really my kind of thing, there I said it, but on the bright side maybe your gypsy momma might be interested? Worth a try?

 

Spoken by a true intellect. It's clear how anyone could see that being like you has its advantages.

 

Perhaps you should run a poll to find out and add up the votes using math.

Or you could ask the wheel for the answer, for it is encoded if you just know how to look by reading randomness.

 

You are clearly one of those guys that go boom, a Dr kind of guy.

 

How many of these conversations have I had with math people in the last 18 years, they always end the same way. I can predict the end long before it ever gets here. But let me cut to the chase and give you the bottom line, mathboy. And I say this a lot because it's true. I beat roulette and you don't. And I hate math.

 

Gizmo, SPIKE you're wasting your time with these characters. They've been spouting the same garbage for YEARS on the forums. They're not even deluded, just trolls and attention seekers hiding behind fluff and nonsense disguised as some kind of insight into random outcomes. Ironically, if they understood that MATH CAN’T BE APPLIED TO AN INDEPENDENT EVENT GAME they would know how ridiculous their claims are to those who aren't so ignorant.

There! Fixed it again.
You’re welcome

 

lol. You just proved my point.

In probability theory and statistics, the binomial distribution with parameters n and p is the discrete probability distribution of the number of successes in a sequence of n INDEPENDENT experiments, each asking a yes–no question, and each with its own Boolean-valued outcome: success (with probability p) or failure (with probability q = 1 − p). -- Wikipedia

Ignorance. It's always in the way.

 

Where you can pound a square peg into a round hole and it fits every time, which makes probability theory anything you want it to be and therefore useless. My daughter is a college math professor she won't even discuss probability theory, she calls it voodoo math. My best friend who died last summer at age 87 was a math teacher for 50 years he would never discuss probability theory either. He said it's not real math therefore it's a waste of time to even talk about it.

 

A 2 or 3 combo EC bet selection what`s the beef ? Flat betting only.

 

Sorry about your friend.

Casinos are built on the math, it is fundamental to their existence, to claim it is too hard, a square peg and hand wave it away as voodoo is your opinion and perjorative.

I won't change that opinion but it is a knowingly ignorant opinion given everything you buy or use, or do relies on it. Every time you drive your car, fly in a plane, eat, get dressed, swallow a pill, use your mobile phone, probability theory has played a big part in quality control, safety signal processing, and profitability.

Old saying those that know, do, those that can't teach.

 

Enough bull shit that one could stomach . Talk about winnings sans martingale ,.

 

Agree, the Jizzmatron and Spike have piled it on high and you just added more nonsense with your martingale.