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Baccarat SNSKK versus PLBSR Bacarat methods

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by JacobBlaze, Apr 16, 2022.

  1. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    Since the admin moved my original post to Lounge, I guess because I agreed with Junky? Or I'm not Bacarats enough???

    I'll say sanitize my post, no jokes...because this is serious cat forum.


    Shoe #1801

    SNSKK Method VERSION 1

    -2 .30 units
    6 wins
    8 losses


    shoe #1801


    PLBSR Method

    -2.15

    3 wins
    5 losses

    Ill ask Master Fathead if he can update banker 5% vs the super Six KoKonut half pay...I don't have that info..

    Thank you for reading my sanitized non offensive post
     
  2. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

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    Shoe 1801
    If.u wanna play along

    1801,1,P
    1801,2,P
    1801,3,B
    1801,4,B
    1801,5,B
    1801,6,B
    1801,7,B
    1801,8,P
    1801,9,B
    1801,10,P
    1801,11,P
    1801,12,P
    1801,13,P
    1801,14,P
    1801,15,P
    1801,16,B
    1801,17,P
    1801,18,B
    1801,19,B
    1801,20,P
    1801,21,B
    1801,22,B
    1801,23,P
    1801,24,P
    1801,25,P
    1801,26,B
    1801,27,P
    1801,28,P
    1801,29,P
    1801,30,P
    1801,31,B
    1801,32,P
    1801,33,P
    1801,34,P
    1801,35,P
    1801,36,B
    1801,37,P
    1801,38,B
    1801,39,B
    1801,40,P
    1801,41,P
    1801,42,P
    1801,43,B
    1801,44,P
    1801,45,B
    1801,46,B
    1801,47,P
    1801,48,B
    1801,49,P
    1801,50,B
    1801,51,P
    1801,52,B
    1801,53,P
    1801,54,B
    1801,55,B
    1801,56,P
    1801,57,P
    1801,58,B
    1801,59,B
    1801,60,B
    1801,61,B
    1801,62,P
    1801,63,B
    1801,64,B
    1801,65,B
    1801,66,P
    1801,67,P
    1801,68,P
    1801,69,B
    1801,70,B
    1801,71,P
    1801,72,B
    1801,73,B
    1801,74,B
    1801,75,P
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No I don't but if I did this would be way too complicated for my simple mind. I'll give you a suggestion though. Something originated by the famous ECD. Just use a method numbering each column by its length. And start the shoe by saying which side won the first decision.

    So the above would start like this: P 25116

    Just a suggestion.
     
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  4. JacobBlaze

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    Thanks...

    That's how I actually track all my shoes.. that shoe format was from the great kitchen room tester FatHeadLAX.... And not one of my originaly played shoes..
     
  5. cps10

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    I’m trying to figure out what the point of this thread it? To make fun of posters on here? I don’t find that to be productive. Let Sox and JK fight their own battles. Adding fuel to the fire isn’t all that funny. Maybe the first time but it’s kind of old. Their feud is old. Let’s talk about bacc and how to beat it, shall we?
     
  6. JacobBlaze

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    I'm.actually not trying to make fun of anyone, just an attempt to insert humor into the situations that came up on my last thread.

    I'm actually forward testing soxmans ideas and find his flat bet thread valuable and believable and have been forward testing his bet banker only idea this casino trip and am mostly even using what I think might be his bet selections

    He never revealed them as far as I know.. just dropped clues with a little bit of deceptions.

    With an adjustment that punky brought up the betting banker flat selectively is up good during my 30 shoe casino visit this trip ...

    I could see how someone might think that I am making fun of someone though.
     
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  7. cps10

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    Works for me JB! Keep on testing. I like seeing hard work. And hopefully it yields satisfactory results!!
     

  8. Jimske

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    My take on JB was that it was all good natured humor. It's fun to try to figure out what someone else is doing particularly when they say that they've got a winning method. I'm not picking on soxfan when I question the credibility of his statements. Point in case. I don't know where the thread is now but someone posted a shoe where he replied he made .85 units net betting I forget how many hands. When you examine the shoe you realize that there's no way flat betting Banker in any consistent way would come up with that result. So either he made a mistake or maybe he's not playing exactly the way he insists that he is.

    And more recently he made a statement saying that "coming over the top" and betting player after 5 players I think it was was a negative expectation bet. Of course he said it in his usual crude and insulting way. So the implication would be that betting Banker after a 5 player is a positive expectation bet. Well maybe it is I don't know but one would think that that bet would be in his Arsenal, no? If not a positive expectation bet that would really question his whole method wouldn't it?

    He also has stated emphatically that betting Bank after three players is a positive expectation bet. Okay let's assume that both are positive expectation bets. Well why isn't betting Banker after four players a positive expectation bet? See where I'm going here? Betting against player 3 4 and 5 all of a sudden is the Holy Grail. And if not doesn't that the call into question the entire credibility of his method?

    Also it just doesn't seem credible to me that someone would sit in front of Party Poker for thousands of hours. That's what it would take to write down thousands of shoes. Even only 2,000 shoes is like 50 weeks of full-time work at 40 hours a week. After that having to go through a multitude of possible configurations in order to come up with a particular trigger that proved to have a positive EV over and above Commission is truly incredible. If it's true it's genius isn't it?

    Look, everyone would love to have a flat bet winning method. It's not personal with me. I'd like to find out what he's doing. I'd be happy you know that it worked. Fact is he has a track record of saying other things worked that didn't. And I have empirical proof of that.

    I do know one thing. Flat betting something like 20 hands a shoe average is going to require a lot of data and one can expect a huge variance when dealing with such small percentage win.

    J
     
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    I agree with everything you said jimske. The edge makes it impossible to flat bet for profit. I’ve tried every which way you can.
     
  10. JacobBlaze

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    Thank you, at Least someone gets me, besides the racoon city dwelers, :)

    I apologized to Soxman, and ask to rename the last thread as I thought some.of the stuff junky was saying was just mean things and probably not real, and I didn't mean thr.title that way,

    I meant the
    Heyheyhey
    Yoyoyo
    Infection
     
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    The thread u are referring to was started by fathead, title was player heavy shoe.... Something like that
     
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    Screenshot_2022-04-17-04-41-56-343_com.miui.gallery.jpg IMG_20220417_052329.jpg
    See Mr Davis shortcut shoe tracking method in my currently playing kitchen table testing session .. ;-)

    Yoyoyo
     
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  13. Punkcity

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    Jacob you played this ? If so what was the results?
    Lol thread title, funny how many princesses got bent out of shape over the last now dead yoyo thread . I’m loving the “kokonuts ” tag line so will use it on a new thread later. Cheers
     
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    Jblaze also must ask what is YOUR confidence level?
    A) definitely confident ( aka 80-95%ish) of selection criteria to allow me a non emotional bet placement

    B) 65-75% I’m confident but a slim element of doubt is registered and flicks across my mind/ emotive awareness

    C) 50-50% and or less , I’m still feeling my way through this and each bet placement I catch my thoughts of a nagging doubt and is more than just below the surface , enough so that I doubt my next bet placement especially if I’ve lost one , two or more in a row.

    I’m aware you put huge effort into your studies and I’m in no way lumping you in the poster letswintogeather category.

    Feel free to decline to reply for what ever reason ,
    Cheers
     
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    Shoe #1801, fatheads shoe

    SNSKK Method VERSION 1

    -2 .30 units
    6 wins
    8 losses


    shoe #1801


    PLBSR Method

    -2.15

    3 wins
    5 losses
    Punky look for lady boys style winning...

    Fathead tested the manual non human Interference version of the

    SNSKK Method VERSION 1

    He emailed it.to me I'll ask him to post here thru his 4k+ live shoe test (not good obviously)

    I also sent u another video of the new RNG machine here... I think it's rigged lol as I quickly lost 10 units ($3 units) doing the original onion,bun, fries stuff I was taught by a racoon/kangaroo hybrid, (that animal had big kokoNUTS)
     
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    Hey ......our princesses have KokoNuts in this forum..

    Yoyoyo
     
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    I.just finished my weeklong outing at my fictional casino kitchen testing table... Heading for a 3 hour drive...

    So let me.digest this question, I think it's more of a personality thing..

    But I definitely feel more confident in the bet.placement as opposed to the racoon ladyboy way(fries, rings,burger) that was taught to me by the hybrid.... Just a training thing...I think..

    I'll send you what I think Soxfuns selection is if u are Interested (fatheadLax deciphered it)

    When you planning the trip?? I got the ladyboys lined up and have the 27-29th of April 5star hotel with ur name on it (but you will have to share the room with Junky and Soxy and act as a mediator) Maybe fatheadLax can make a.special appearance.. :)

    YoyoYo
     
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  18. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    So that’s a B category heading to A .
    Nice.
    One could attribute that to you being the originator of the method you are using, even though you may have picked up a few tidbits from other posters. You have found something that you have taken the time and effort, paper practice, mental application of an idea to a quasi workable methodology and made it work in a real life environment. That is the self relevant knowledge that gives you the confidence as opposed to learning something else from someone else as one is never too sure about the others truthfulness , so you have one less nagging doubt.
    Nice.
    Cheers
     
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    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Shoot I got 20+ units that shoe. Lol optical bias I’m sure. Pick a hand entry level on that shoe and let me know and I will play it from there. Cheers
     
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    Ok I didnt play it racoon oniion rings burger method.

    Just soxyracoon sluuty stoppage method..

    I'll play it later ..
     

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