Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

I'm not doubting you but I've tried it several times and it's never worked for me. Shrug..

 

Roger

 

lol. I bet the casinos love you.

 

Frank Barstows principle of diminishing probability of repeating patterns comes to mind .

 

Gads. I'll say it again. Math will never tell you when a win streak will start, how long it will last, and when it will end. If it could there would not be casinos. Math will not help you win. It will just make you relate to what is happening through the characteristics of math based results.

 

Reading randomness and educated guessing are just forms of subjective probability. And if there there aren't any winning patterns in objective probability there certainly can't be any when it's subjective, because it's only when your subjective bets coincide with objectively winning patterns that reading randomness can possibly win.

And there aren't any winning patterns in objective probability. If you think there are, take all the patterns of a given length X (however far back you look for your "triggers") and try to find patterns which follow from them which occur more often than probability dictates.

You won't find any.

 

The mistake here is a common one. The first probability is just the single event probability to the power of 25 and that represents the probability of witnessing entire sequence of 25 flips where each flip is a 50/50 head/tail event.

However once at flip 25 the past is now 100% known. The only uncertainty left that is in front of you is the probability of the very next coin flip or 50%.

Think of it like a mission to Mars. Let's say NASA has an overall mission success or failure probability based on the launch, separation, the main flight, the rentry into Mars and sticking the landing.

Once the rocket has left the launch pad, got through separation, travelled to Mars and is though the rentry, the only probability left that remains which can cause mission failure or success is sticking the landing. The initial launch and separation is well behind them and those probabilities are now facts with success probability now 100% and the failure probabilities now zero.

Same as flipping a coin, once it's done it's now a fact and no longer contributes to the future probability.

Hope this helps to grasp how probability unfolds when considering probablities of sequences of events.

 

Mark, Anti streak betting involving Roulette EC or Baccarat is a chapter all by itself .\\My preference would

be the Baccarat AS version.

 

Actually math can tell us almost exactly how long the longest streak will be with a predictive accuracy variance less than 2, regardless of how many events one considers, 50 to trillions the prediction accuracy is independent of the number of events.

Mark Schillings famous paper "The longest run of heads" provides the insights and the math.

No use to Gizmo but others may find it useful.

 

Mark , Copy rights preventing me to post the AS methods of roulette and Baccarat.

 

Fact!

 

Opinion. There is plenty that math and statistics tells us about these events. But some prefer to poke out their eyes and stick fingers in their ears and sing la-la-la whilst simultaneously embracing mysticsm.

Such people cannot be helped.

Math will tell us how many streaks we can expect, the distribution counts (how many) of each of the streak lengths and the longest length of a streak with very high predictability.

 

No they are not. That's just you guessing. The first thing you do is completely forget about probability. It can't tell you when a win streak will start, how long it will last, and when it will end. Now make up another straw man argument.

 

You can throw out triggers too. Don't use them. They will always fail you if you depend on them. These guys are stupid.

 

Let's say that you eat a soft and steaming turd and then you smile with your brown shitstained teeth. You actually expect others to smile back. That all adds up with simple arithmetic.

 

idiot juice... It's all irrelevant because streaks of anything alone do not automatically end up as winning streaks. I can tell you the longest streak. 33 spins in a row with the same dozen not hitting, (sleeping.) It's common enough to exploit it. Meanwhile you are sitting on a toadstool thinking about the longest streak and writing it in your book of accuracies and how to prove that you are a mathematical dick.

 

Yes, if you want to be a dickhead and stand out you need to sound just like this guy. They are so stuck on math, probability, and prediction.

 

Oh, great. Magical math can tell us when a win streak will start, how long it will last once it starts, and when it will end after it started. Shit, don't be a fool. Get down to the casino and rake it all in. LOL

 

Correct. I feel sorry for you mathboyz that believe math can be used to win at roulette.

Math has no way to predict what the next winning outcome will be.

 

Correct. But neither does educated guessing or reading randomness. You guys are missing the point entirely. What TwoUp is saying is that IF you had a way to win using reading randomness, it would then be quite easy to formalize and prove it with math. But first, there has to actually be something out there in the real world which causes you to win. This impossible in roulette because the game was deliberately designed so that there is nothing to take advantage of, given a fair wheel. The abstract game of probabilities is incapable of yielding even one iota of edge in your favor, so it's pointless computing probabilities hoping to find one. You're like deer caught in the headlights, fascinated by the possibilities for systems.

And math isn't some kind of foolproof method which uncovers the secrets of the universe, it's just a concise and highly structured language. This is why your attacks on it and the "mathboyz" are so comical. You don't even understand what you're attacking.