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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Reading Randomness has nothing to do with prediction. Take the turds out of your ears.
     
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    Wrong again. Reading Randomness is a way to win and the math for it would take a real mathematician to explain it, not simple arithmetic other than I go into a casino with a $500 bankroll and leave with a $600 bankroll.
     
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    I do too. You guys believe the propaganda that the House wins because it has a slight mathematical advantage. Everyone expects to lose in the long run. I understand it all completely. You use simple binomial distribution and that's all there is too it.
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

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    " Very amusing " [removed, pay to advertise] Blue Eyes sung .
     
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    Reading randomness, spotting patterns, the way I see it, it's an art, not a science. It's sometimes very hard, sometimes very easy, never 100% simple. It's very personal. It takes boldness. I believe it also takes faith. It naturally improves with practice. What folly to believe things are independent. Everything is interconnected, from the smallest inclinations in our hearts to the tornadoes in the sky. Yes, I take an approach to this that is similar to mysticism. He told the apostles were to go fishing, if you give your life to roulette, He might as well give you the power to know when to bet. Ask and it is given. Just pure kindness of God. Have I also mentioned how fun it is? It can't be proven with math. Yes, it is kind of magical, really. It should not happen, but it does. More than half the times. Which is enough.
     
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  6. Georgie

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    If you'd been serious about learning math decades ago back in junior high, you'd have been equipped in all the years since to perhaps use it as a tool to improve your life or maybe even make the world a better place. You'd now be able to have an adult conversation about the language of math and how it explains everything in the known physical universe.

    But some things never change. Just like you were, sitting in the back of junior high math class giving your teacher a tough time, making her question her own career choice wasting time teaching life tools to kids who don't give a damn, you're still the smug know-it-all blowing off math, unable to participate in a literate conversation about it, with nothing to offer but flippant un-funny wisecracks.

    You're welcome for the free math lesson. Of course you don't appreciate learning anything offered to you though, as always, because you already have the whole universe figured out and there's nothing more to learn.
     
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  7. gizmotron

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    It's awesome what Spike and I discovered independently from each other more than a decade ago. I made tactical mistakes that I corrected by placing rigid limits on each session. Spike has done his own version of limitations based on the same principle, "if you stay too long things can go wrong if you get lazy."

    People will learn this and relate to it in their own way from their own learning experience. And the mathBoyz will still be around to criticize it and say it's a scam. That's just the way the cookie crumbles.
     
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  8. gizmotron

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    Nice fantasy fuckStick plunger face.

    I took algebra 1 & 2 in my Freshman year, Geometry my Sophomore year so that I could take Physics in my Junior year, all that so that I could take off campus AC & DC circuitry my Senior year. I got to leave school to take an advanced training course that represented 4 periods of the high school day. I only attended three classes all year during my Senior year.

    Math has nothing to do with how Reading Randomness works. But some day some bean counter somewhere will explain it all to you in an algorithm or formula.
     
  9. SPIKE

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    Reading random has nothing to do with math, it's all about experience and the feel for the game that experience gives you. There is only a finite number of things that can happen with 37 or 38 outcomes. Over time you become extremely familiar with every one of the things that can happen and you come to understand how the outcomes flow into and out of different playing circumstances. Some of them are very playable and many of them are not. I just look for the playable ones and never bet on the others. The more you play the better you get. I'm getting to the point where I don't even have to write things down, I can get the gist of it just watching the outcomes. I keep going back to the analogy that it's like driving a car on a long trip, your brain is so used to it that you don't even have to think about what you're doing. My subconscious knows what to look for now in roulette outcomes and I barely have to think about what I'm doing.
     
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  10. Georgie

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    It's still gambling. Math is just one tool to use when doing so; one of many important elements to consider when making a decision. There are no professional gamblers sitting on piles of millions who don't credit a strong understanding of math, in part, as to how they got where they are.
     
  11. SPIKE

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    And you always get lazy because your brain can only pay attention for so long before it starts to wander and then you start missing things. And that gets expensive. So I just whittled everything down to having a rigid goal of make just one unit and stop. The odd thing is I saw this way way back when this whole thing first started in 2004. I realized almost immediately making one unit and quitting was the only logical way to play. But I couldn't do that, it's only been the last couple of years that my game has gotten good enough for that.
     
  12. gizmotron

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    @Georgie -- That sounds a lot like sophistry. Sure, you can tell yourself that the statistical norm for a win streak lasting more than three more spins follows the same odds for any streak's odds. But if your mind is on figures and statistics you won't have your mind on what is currently happening in real time. I suggest you create a Reading Randomness for math oriented snobs. They could use it.
     
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  13. SPIKE

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    Games like poker and blackjack totally depend on math in order to be beaten. Math cannot apply to beating roulette because every outcome is independent of the last outcome. Because the next outcome is not connected in any way to the last outcome math is worthless in playing roulette.
     
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  14. gizmotron

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    It's the speed of the internet live play too. It comes at you fast. You must be fast and alert. Wow, 2004. I saw my first elegant pattern in 1993. It took ten years or more for me to start looking at why it works sometimes and not others. There was nobody around telling me what to do but this one guy that said "when you are doing good bet big, any other time bet small." He said that back in 1994 at a casino door. I'm sure it's been in books for centuries.

    My favorite axiom from the mathBoyz is that you can't know when you are in a win streak.
     

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    Sounds like an straw man of your own making.

    Use addition, count back (using your fingers if you must), to the last loss. This will tell you how long your current winning streak is.

    In your case you can use it to count back your losing streaks.
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    I completely agree with SPIKES post # 573 .

    Nathan Detroit
     
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  17. Georgie

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    I don't see the mistake.

    Look at it from the perspective of "permutations".


    PERMUTIATION

    noun

    1. the act of permuting or permutating; alteration; transformation.

    2. Mathematics.

    a) the act of changing the order of elements arranged in a particular order, as abc into acb, bac, etc., or of arranging a number of elements in groups made up of equal numbers of the elements in different orders, as a and b in ab and ba; a one-to-one transformation of a set with a finite number of elements.

    b) any of the resulting arrangements or groups.


    For example:

    There are 4 permutations of 2 Coin Flips:

    x(to the y power)

    x = 2
    y = 2

    H H T T
    H T H T

    That's 4 permutations.


    Again using x(to the y power) , there are:

    4 permutations of 2 trials
    8 permutations of 3
    16 permutations of 4
    32 permutations of 5
    64 permutations of 6
    128 permutations of 7
    256 permutations of 8
    512 permutations of 9
    1024 permutations of 10
    2048 permutations of 11
    4096 permutations of 12

    ...and so on.


    Let's consider permutations of 6, for example:

    64 different permutations of 6


    H H H H H H is just one of those permutations. There are 63 others.


    If there are 5 HEADS: H H H H H

    ...and you bet for the 6th result to be TAILS, you're betting against the

    1 in 64 chance = 1.5625% chance = 0.015625 PROBABILITY = 1:63 ODDS

    that the House can present the H H H H H H permutation at the precise moment you're betting for the

    T T T T T T permutation to appear.

    This is true regardless of whether you wagered on some, all, or none of the first 5 propositions of this sequence.
     
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  18. Georgie

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    Why are you unhinged about a reply I posted to someone else? I'm sure Median Joe can speak for himself.

    I don't know you, or anyone else around here for that matter, because I don't visit often, but it's becoming quite clear who the jerks are in this forum.

    I thought this was a place to exchange ideas respectfully, where we could help one another. I see that from a few, but what I see more is a fight club for insecure small men with oversized egos and self-destructive hubris. And you're a "Founding Member"? Good Lord. Perhaps you should re-examine your objectives with this website.

    Ask your doctor for a Xanax script.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    I could be wrong but I think Gizmo made an error. He thought you made that post and it was Medium Joe who made it. If I'm in a hurry I make similar mistakes here.
     
  20. Georgie

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    Agreed. Per the Law of Equilibrium, the EC results will naturally gain equilibrium over time.

    While it's possible to see 10 RED in 10 spins, across 10,000 spins the number will be real close to 5000 RED and 5000 BLACK.
     

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