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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The rule of the wheel is the basis for selecting each of the 2 dozens.


    I am serious . What I just spotted on the first Dozen is the signal betting dozen 2 and 3.


    ND
     
  2. SPIKE

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    I just played this virtually at an online casino live wheel and it lost miserably, as I knew it would. I got half right and half wrong which when you're betting two dozens at once is a horrible failure. I knew it would lose because you can't have rules applying to random outcomes. They don't follow rules, they have no rules, therefore any rules you make up about them won't work.
     
  3. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    Not nearly enough information. I need to see at least the last seven or eight outcomes before I make a decision.
     
  4. Georgie

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    Ioannis Kavouras' "Simply the Best Roulette System for Dozens or Columns", is a single dozen wagering strategy. I don't know what strategy you were playing SPIKE.

    It doesn't work all the time for me, but it works at least half the time. With the right Money Management scheme, I think a guy could make some money with it. The author claims to make money with it.

    Did you read his article? I didn't see any "rules". I just saw some guidelines, and some bullet points he called "Exceptions and Red Flags". Just like anything else with gambling, the gambler must use his head and judgment to adjust the plan when necessary.

    I've only played it through about 200 spins total, and while his Exceptions and Red Flags were true the majority of the time, they weren't true 100% of the time. Sometimes I contravened them and won. A few times I contravened them and lost. In my limited experience with it so far, a guy is better off respecting his guidelines, exceptions, and red flags, as they are correct most of the time.

    Yes, Roulette has random outcomes, but that doesn't mean they don't follow "patterns". Isn't that partly what you're doing with your RR? Reading patterns to predict the next result?

    I'm not a computer or math expert, but isn't that how algorithms and Artificial Intelligence is designed in part? Doesn't it analyze a long data history to look for patterns, and use that to predict probable outcomes in the future? Doesn't mean they are "rules" that are hard and absolute, but it does mean some patterns and sequences can result in certain outcomes more than half the time.

    For example, historically in Baccarat, 5 Bankers In A Row will go 6 IAR 55.49% of the time. 5 Players IAR will go 6 IAR 55.17% of the time. 2 Players IAR will chop to Banker 53.7% of the time. 5 Banker/Player Chop will go 6 Chop 52.45% of the time. A Player Banker Chop will be followed by another Banker 52% of the time. [Source: Naser YT Channel; "Baccarat-Banker or Player-Don't lose your money by thoughtless decisions Part 1 and Part 2"]

    These and other historical patterns can be used in part, along with other cues, to help make a prediction for the next result. Have all the Asian Baccarat high priests been wasting their time studying Derived Roads all these years? I think not.
     
  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    t is the Follow the dozen method according to action between neighbors on the whel.

    Them the bets are placed on corresponding dozens.\ on the lay out.


    Excellent MO. Flat betting .
     
  6. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Why would you even bother?

    You have a personal winning method

    You claim a high success rate

    Why would you even let the thought of an inferior method be even contemplated let alone trialed?
    I find that those that chop and change method “looking” actually don’t have a “as reliable method” that they spout on about.

    Perhaps you are bored and needed to gamble.

    I do advocate slutty days every few weeks to blow off steam as boring money making using a excellent selection criteria is actually high pressure, very intense keeping rules and focus to keep oneself from just not cracking and becoming a degen gambling fool for the casinoverse, hence the slutty day protocol.

    My advice don’t mess with other methods because it will eventually mess with your own method.

    Boring 1 unit per session is good. I swear by a few units, 1 unit per session myself. I love boring easy money.

    ( Redacted paragraph. It was humorous so I won’t waste space here )

    George’s pretty girl method is just a pig with lipstick on and a torn condom in its mouth. Go back to your own method.
    Cheers
     
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  7. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    Dozens are not exactly a EC event. Maybe start a dozens thread as not to muddy the EC thread that this is. I would be interested in reading you views discussed on a thread like that. Cheers
     

  8. gizmotron

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    While a dozen or column is sleeping the remaining two active dozens / columns are EC bets as long as the swarm of singles or sleeping 12 numbers continue. You get an average of 50% right but it pays 2 to 1. That makes it fit in the EC discussion section. It's conditional EC betting.
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Mark, Thanks for the explanation.
     
  10. SPIKE

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    To see how badly it failed of course. To wallow in the schadenfreude of it all. LOL
     
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  11. SPIKE

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    You can make it EC event by getting rid of the second dozen. Then it's an even chance bet all day long. Just always bet one unit on the second dozen and two units on one of the other dozens. Every time the second dozen hits you get a push. If you do not have good bet selection at least it slows down how fast you lose. If you do have a good bet selection it also slows down how fast you win but it's much less risky. And if the second dozen sleeps, which it often does, like Gizmo said just switch to betting on either the first or second dozen. Or column.
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    Thanks to SPIKE for his expert advice to clarify that dozens are indeed EC based as demonstrated.


    ND
     
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  13. gizmotron

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    I knew it all along. That's because I'm so smart, or is that smart assed?
     
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  14. Nathan Detroit

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    What is important is knowing what`s what .
     
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  15. Punkcity

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    Fair call, I only used to view it as an profit acceleration device, purely for the 2 to 1 payout as it was potentially covered by the even/odd and hi/ low sequences .With timing etc it’s a relatively safe unit win. I actually never viewed it as a stand alone incorporated ec event.
    Will look into it. Cheers
     
  16. SPIKE

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    You will find it's just another EC bet and without good bet selection it will win and lose just like every other EC bet.
     
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    Great advice. Thanks.
     
  18. Keyser Soze

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    I’m confused, or you just contradicting yourself?

    Why would you need to see more outcomes?

    Is it because you need more outcomes to predict your next bet, or you need to recognize a certain pattern before you place your bet?

    Your post #622 says it all.

    What it tells me is that you do use past spins to make your next bet.
     
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  19. Nathan Detroit

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    LDS ,last decision shows, is enough for me where to place the next bet .

    NOW is looking at you.
     
  20. gizmotron

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    Each of us that use RR to consider risk use our own way to relate to past spins and context. I look for large amounts of the global effect. But I also look for fragments of it in small batches. I know there is a context to what is happening in past spins. Things, like packets of things, come in isolated packages. This is common. They tend to flow at times that you can see the context. If you are not trained to look for stuff then you can't see it. It's difficult to tell someone that something is there and it is continuing if they can't see it. That's why people reject it. They would not reject it if they could see it. You can't teach people recognition. You can lead them to it, show examples of it, but it is they that must see with their own eyes.
     
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