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TurboGenius Cracking the riddles

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by Naughty but nice, Apr 28, 2022.

  1. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Just 6 spins. Top3 or top7?

    Every lap goes from left to right. How many 1x’s will hit before the R1 starts?

    At 10 spins, will we have had any repeats. Will T3 or T7 had any matches?

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    10th spin 2nd #6, has had 2 repeats. At this point in the stream, T7 has 2 matches, T3 no matches.

    Spin 11, #32, is a match for T3; it’s also a match for T7.

    The repeat average kindly provided by Dr Sir anyone of, 1-3-5-7&30@60spins, was already +1 over 10 spins. Don’t be fooled, the average can come the other way, meaning non-hits would be better.

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    20 spins. There have been 6 repeats. Would you say this is fast for repeats? Or expected. T3 has just 1 match. T7 has 6 matches in total. The repeat AVG is at this point in the stream is +2.

    Now think about it; the larger group are under performing. Is this stream going to carry on giving repeats? But remember at 60 spins most streams end 30/30.

    If, 30 spins end’s +2 for repeats, that would mean 11 repeats. That would be 50/50 over the 10 spins for repeats and non-hits. Look at the excel or mat; there you see in green the 1x’s; 9 in total. Are the repeats going to come from these or are we going to see T3 & T7 match more and be hotties?

    Just throw this in; if you are betting all TOP3 you are doing it wrong, but you would have 2 matches not 1.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Well, repeats over 30 spins 2-4-5=11.

    T3 had a match, T7 had more matches. Is T7 the comment in reply9?

    So, you can see Just Like Winkel said in GUT; they have to get to 37. You can see they are at 19th of the starting 37, These have started other laps, that have to get to 37 as well.

    The advantage of top3 is reliant on the top3 remaining hot. Is #25, R1 going to hit 3 times in spins 31-40? If it does you will get a match for top3, but T7 also gets matches if it does hit 3 times.

    At 40 spins, repeat AVG is 16 repeats, 1-3-5-7=16. If the stream is finishing at 40 spins +2, then 7 repeats must happen. Or meets the AVG and only 5 repeats. There are 12, 1x’s all to go R1 or even go on to R2. Crystal ball needed.
     
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    Well, 5 of the remaining non-hits, hit. So, you got 5 repeats.

    Where is the advantage? You tell me.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    If you look beyond the #35, the 24th of the non-hit. Is #20 on the numbers going forward, no. The #6, eventually. #7, yes. #17, yes. But do they hit fast enough?
     
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    Throw this in. Up to the 26th non-hit, they have an average of 3 spins to hit. Up to the 30th non-hit, they have an average of 4 spins.
    With 20 spins to come; if the next 2 non-hit take the average to hit of 3 spins, you'll have accounted for 6 spins.
    Now with 14 spins left, 4 in to 14 is 3.5; does the math say round up? okay every 4 spins one of the remaining non-hits could show.
    So, potentially you could end with 29 of the starting 37, hitting.
    If it happens then repeats would be +1
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    This is why you stop, Dr Sir. The KFC has won +50; spin 28.
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    Must thank my best mate, NOT. Taotie or is it bombus, probably the Dr Sir as well, for the numbers that he nearly tanked on
     
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    Only 3 hit 4 times. Just 4 of the starting 37 to find.
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    Repeats at 30th spin, +1. Now to be -4 at 40th, The non-hits piled in.
    It's all going from the left to the right. Are T3 matching any good? What about T7?
    At 60 spins still -3 for repeats. 33 of the starting 37 have hit at least once.
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    Perhaps the chief Riddler can post some more riddles.
     
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    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Denzie; when you going to post the 100 games of winning 100 units?
     
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    I'll second that, ready for Turbo!
     
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    NBN, all your posts are riddles. Try to make them clearer if you want a response.
     
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    Joe; I'm a member of the riddler club.
    You come across as a smart fella If you can't see 1-3-5-7=16 repeats, then no hope for ya.
     
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    I wonder if you go to RF, you could workout what's being shown in The TURBO way part 2
     
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    So from what i understand we play both repeaters and non-hit numbers right?
     

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    Hotjohn
    If you think the repeat average of 1-3-5-7=16 repeats over 40 spins; is fair, then with the excel you can follow
    the stream. Keep eye on the score of the repeats.
    Remember the larger group are at the start. no repeat or just 1 or 2 repeats are known in 1st 20 spins.
    Think of balance; with 3 repeats expected in spins 11-20; say 1-10 ended, -1. If 11-20; end -1, there'd be 3 repeats.
    Would it be better to bet the non-hits? Up to the 19th non-hit, they have an average to hit in 2 spins.

    So, go test at R-sim
     
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    What did I say above about 20 spins?
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    Now Saint Steve has made it to the big game. You know you can watch at R-sim.
    At 20 spins disarster, repeats -2. Make it simple, are the Top3 or Top7 matching well; has it been predictable?
    It's obvious you have to play the 1x's and watch those R1's
    Have you ever looked at Winkel's GUT. Times you have to bet 1x+>1x, there's more to it; not just crossings like the
    Dr Sir thinks
     
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    I understand it s more to it that s why i am asking.
    I can t find an easy repeater tracker so far so i have to do it by hand.
     
  18. Proofreaders2000

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    Try out Track Four below for tracking repeat singles.
     

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    Thank you, that s good.
     
  20. Naughty but nice

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    What you see here is all 95 spins played.
    At spin 39 +114.
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    Now these 39 spins, has 6 reset on a new high. +118
     

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