Baccarat Punkcity baccarat thread only

Actually not my thread.
The reason I said to Garfield to start a flat bet thread was this thread by bactz ( excellent skipptophian imho) is about METHODS not flat betting or it’s pros and cons.

I leave bactz to decide if you are off topic or not.

as you have incorporated method with a dash of bet progression I’m inclined to give you a carry on tiger.

As for posting a loss, had to happen eventually as no selection criteria is infallible nor is any bet progression the holy grail of loss recuperation.

The strict structures of rules is the ultimate saving grace of selection criteria and bet method ( progression , flat, Marty etc) to keep loses to a manageable level.

You mentioned-9 as an exit point so I deduce that in past shoes lately you are down at stages more than that but managed to recover to a small loss or at least break even.

You probably have enough game time to construct a set of guidelines that are appropriate for you and your current method of play. Perhaps time to take a break, re access your approach, iron out the kinks, if any .....then game on.

The variance has to reappear, it’s illogical to think you ( anybody) will never lose, suffer partial bankroll death or total bankroll death ( depending on quality of selection criteria also a factor in absolute death) . With the amount of action you have been having with your current adaptation between a couple of selections and betting methods combined maybe it’s been “too much action” as more hands bet on is not necessarily the optimal unit returns for your current free styling. The off shoot is also in my experience with the way I play my selection criteria I actually don’t mind a large ish drawdown at times because I know even flat betting I gain that loss back within the month work cycle.

I have supreme confidence from experience in my method, As per previous posts on another thread this forum .

So are you questioning your adaptive method as being viable? Or should you just see it as variance, as I would. Is it really a method that’s a cycle duration , ie not every hand in the shoe played but 5 to say ten or twenty hands then jump out ? Etc.

Just a thought and no criticism intended.

 

Thanks for your response.

I actually took a lunch break after that loss. And looked at my records I never had a loss bigger than 3 thru that nice run

And was never down more than 5 units before recovering.

I'm.not.questioning the ber selection just the labby part at such high base units.

 

continued..
Sorry forum kept craping out on me.

I actually recovered about 20 of those units the 4 shoes after the break playing the same way. Overall I ended that casino trip (separate island) about -7 base units overall (i was up +17 early in the trip). But the confidence in the labby was shaken, and maybe I'll just continue flat betting only at the $100 level.

I know I would've recovered easily that time if I would've continued the labby but at $100 base units I didn't have the required bankroll.

I'm.actually back home now and no more casino kitchen testing for a few days. When I return i might just go flat bet punkymethod and see how that pans out. I'm undecided. Thanks and take care.

 

Totally understand, as posted previously other thread, the emotional swings imho is not worth the potential profit while risking the mental balance. I think many people crack under that pressure eventually, then they suffer bankroll death which Leeds to question of their ability to succeed. That is why I choose my flat unit bet size , with the rules, my confidence remains unshakable, I’m not competing with anyone, my profit or loss for the session is my business , under my complete control , I don’t need to offer an excuse to anyone and most importantly to myself as to why that session went south, I don’t blame the rng, the limousine, the dealer etc. The drawdown is my choice entirely. End of story. The southern drawdown was me , continue to bet when I should have realised it was time to stop. Cheers

 

I don't really care what is posted here. Punky and JB can decide.

 

Disclaimer “ you” is generic “you”
Agreed, unlimited bankroll, no table max = no pressure.

Unfortunately if that is the case then no casinoverse.

If you use a smaller unit you still have the same problem eventually being the table maximum comes back into play at some stage. Sure you can do the mini Marty , grand Marty but you always come back to the table maximum. Everything has a blackswan event in its inherent event driven results, the blackswan has many guises and are usually not considered beforehand and is usually by most only realised as one is on the precipice of bankroll death or after bankroll death.

These are the infallible statements that allow the casinoverse to operate, they don’t have to cheat, use post op ladyboy reachround voodoo etc.

So clearly one has to evaluate one’s reason for participation in this hazardous profession. Are you a wham bam thank you mam weekender fun player? A holy grailist churning through disappointing method after disappointing method? An alchemist trying to turn a dud into gold ?

The bottom line is always sustainable unit size to bankroll ratio, a superior selection criteria , realistic expectations and the fortitude to abide by yourself imposed discipline. Cheers

 

Good post, maybe I am a holy grailist always in search of the elusive always win methods.

But because I'm always searching my baccarat game has improved tremendously and I have found people like u, junky, soxy, Jae, fathead, turbo etc...

By reading posts from you and other great koinflip minds I have learned abstract ways of thinking betting etc that would normally take a committed gambler many, many years and money losses to learn some tough lessons. Etc...

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The labby isa very very very VERY inefficient and just plain lousy style to use at the baccarats. I used a labby for a coupla months when I first started playin for my fulls-time income and chucked it after a while, hey hey.

 

That is the end result.
The ability to take from various methods and jell the fundamental parts to produce a workable approach that ideally suits you the individual is excellent.

I’ve often posted that you can teach someone something but they will invariably change it subtly and one ends up with either one of the next three scenarios.
Scenario 1. , they changed it so much or just a bit that the method being taught is NOT working no matter how they try. They just don’t get it , can’t get the fact they have changed aspects of it but will nevertheless drop it completely and chase something else. And will forever say the taught method is crap.

Scenario 2 ., they change it a bit or a lot from the original format BUT they are able to adapt to their Own personality to still achieve a reliable outcome. It may differ somewhat from the taught method as instructor and instructed play at the same time, occasionally they may bet opposite one another but at the end of session they are within a unit or two end result.
Scenario 3., Extremely rare , the instructions are absorbed 100% , the instructed has completely separated from all past habits, old methods and any other fundamental negative belief. Any and all needs to suggest that they would play this in such and such a way as they used to in the past. They should have no comparison to make because they are totally absorbed into learning what is being presented. Although the person is entirely different from the instructor by applying the method 100% and practice 100% the end result should be 99% accurate.
As stated scenario 3., is extremely difficult to achieve it’s the optimal in my opinion. I had been able to learn everything I wanted too that way , total suspension of prior self perceived beliefs on whatever subject was being learned.

On the topic of holy grail, I consider that each person has their own particular grail, I’ve posted previous posts regarding that thought, you know it’s a personal grail if you have not changed it , swapped in or out it over night in favour of something else but you are able to continue for years to turn a profit using the same [removed, pay to advertise] boring method. My favourite line is you never wake up the next morning, roll over and see that your bedroom partner is a pig with lipstick on and a broken condom hanging out of its arse but you awake to that plain Jane big breasts as per usual.
So Jacob scenario 2., is fine as long as you’re making money because your making your own personal grail and you cannot get any better than that. Good work. Cheers