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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    No, you are a copycat. As much as you wanna be alike in the terms of serving the same purpose, which I btw I agree with & see its relevance, bd who you are, original.
     
  2. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Where is Turbo's math presented, you know already the answer to that - posing that question to me, of playing ignorant is unnecessary.
     
  3. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    If you are not able to piece ot together in a way that works consistently,
    that's entirely your problem -- so again, don't seek solace in me.

    Start with challenging your beliefs, everything you adopted,
    to make the necessary space for the mind to realign,
    so that you'll be able to see as originally devised,
    before being puzzled.
     
  4. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Before you mention the math to me again,
    & and anything as stupid suggestions alike 1+1=3;

    explain these to me ..


    the nerve system is all electricity & magnetism,
    thereof all being able to be quantified with math;
    so first, formulate the math formula of a flinch,
    second, explain why fo you flinch first of all,
    third, why do some of us who have overcome the involuntary flinch response = reflex,
    do not flinch even if the gun goes of in the immediate vicinity,
    & fourth, what its even possible to override the reflex

    (a reflex alike your mind's you train with your beliefs for so long),
    that it runs a standard output every time t=you come across a certain trigger,
    trigger constituted of certa9ns ideas & words)

    So go on, using your current understanding of 'math' ..
    or do you think it might need more 'levels' to it,
    an expansion, to grasp the whole thing & representing it fully,
    using the math tools at your disposal.

    •when the seemen enter & ovary, merging & becoming one, one cell;
    would you explain/represent that with either
    1+1=1 .. doesn't really make sense, does it?
    1x1=2 .. doesn't really justify it, does it?

    so what's the math for this, & including that above;
    I am listening?
     
  5. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    Well, Halle (freakin') lujah!!
    Thank you.
     
  7. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    @juice, since you popped in ..

    why don't you confirm that 'math' for consistent roulette winning exists,
    at least allegedly you are able to do so .. consistently win, without risk
     

  8. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    @Median Joe as a scientist, you just need to be more clever .. to/& find out were you are wrong .. instead
     
  9. 6probability9

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    That "sizeable edge" has been mathematically proven to not exist. The house edge represents the casino's expected profit over a period hence it's a business model. no bet in Roulette allows a player edge higher than the game's losing outcomes.

    Your true lack of comprehension for the expected value in roulette is pitiful. This is why problem gamblers listen to you, then mug themselves by playing American roulette. La Partage is a rule that offers the player an advantage over all other bet selections in roulette. You would prefer to lose all of your bet than the house return half your bet because Lol the divide

    Its abhorrently obvious that you dont gamble any real capital in this game; with outcome defined by mathematical parameters. The payouts in roulette correspond to the expected value of all bets. Roulette is titled in the house's favour, the highest chance of winning a bias game is to reduce the bias.
     
  10. SPIKE

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    You mean for you it does not exist because it certainly does exist for me. In spades.

    "La Partage gets the house edge down to 1.3% on even money bets." It cuts the house edge on a single 0 wheel in half. So what who cares big deal.

    If you bet randomly against random outcomes it is in the houses favor. If you've developed a method of play where you can successfully guess the next outcome more often than not all of a sudden you have the edge. And it's not that hard to get. It's not that hard to get a giant edge. You cannot prove with your wonderful math that you cannot get an edge in roulette. All you can prove is if you bet randomly against random outcomes the house will always have the edge.
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    Screw the math and enjoy a visit at a casino. Rat holing the net winnings .
     
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  12. SPIKE

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    Enjoying a visit to a casino, something I've never done. I hate casinos. They stink, as soon as you walk in the door you get hit with this gagging smell of cigarette smoke, old perfume, and loser flop sweat. I hate all the noise, I hate all the walking you have to do. I hate that they have no place to sit other than at an unused slot machine. I hate the grim look on all the players faces. I hate the fact that my wife is so smart about everything else in life but as soon as she enters a casino she turns into a blithering idiot because she has a gambling problem that only manifests itself inside a casino. She doesn't play the lottery, she doesn't make bets anywhere except in a casino. To enjoy a visit to a casino sounds ridiculous to me, how is that possible. It's like enjoying a visit to the DMV..
     
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  13. 6probability9

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    it's undisputed that every spin is independent. Therefore if EC w/ la Partage is the most favourable bet, all other bet selections in roulette are inferior.

    What's this notion that you cannot rely on math.. we apply math everyday consciously and subconsciously. mathematics contains manys field of study. Evidently we're using statistics to interpret the nature of randomness.

    Probability teaches us, the likelihood of what will happen next. we calculate this by testing a hypothesis for evidence to support the plausibility of the hypothesis.

    Honestly tell me any allegory that doesn't contain elements of mathematics?
     
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    Yup delusions of grandeur are signs of problem gambling.

    It's a big deal that you never passed math. you would rather lose all of your bet than the house return half your bet. You have no clue what expected value is. Hence you peddle superstitious edges when it come to bet selection.

    and there's my confirmation; you dont gamble any real capital in this game. You're just guessing at home, all the payouts are in your head thus you never lose money.

    What a joke that you mean I cannot prove you're lying about your sizeable edge. Burden of proof is on the individual to prove an assertion or claim they made.
     
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  15. TwoUp

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    That electricity bill is calculated using that terrible, evil math you hate so much, instead of your superior educated guesses.

    Modern power meters actually have to use "complex number" calculations for metering both inductive and reactive loads. Imagine that, using evil imaginary numbers like the impossible √(-1) on the imaginary plane just to work out the power bill!

    I know it's all too much math, the world would be better off just guessing.
     
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  16. SPIKE

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    Noooo, I'd rather win 80% of the time on the 1st bet then screw around with whittling the stupid house edge down. My edge over this game of roulette is so gigantic that the house edge is meaningless. You don't get it, once you have an edge of your own the house edge disappears and your edge prevails. Don't bother telling me I'm deluded and I don't play for real money and all the rest of the blah blah blah I've been hearing for the last 15 years. You cannot say anything to me I haven't heard 100 times before. And I know exactly what my EV is, why wouldn't I. You know nothing about what I do you just think you know because all you can do is think inside your own teeny tiny parameters. I started this thread about asking me questions about how I win at roulette but the questions have to be very specific if you're going to get an answer from me. And of course almost nobody has a specific question because they have no idea what to ask cuz they have no idea how random outcomes work. You won't have a question either I guarantee it. All you have is the erroneous information you've been taught and like any religious zealot, that's good enough for you.
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  17. SPIKE

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    Actually Nathan does not believe in educated guessing, that's my term. Of course you can measure electricity with math, so what. It has nothing to do with random outcomes which is what you're dealing with in roulette. You cannot predict with math or anything else what the next independent random outcome will be but you can certainly make an educated guess about it.
     
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    Math predicts everything we witness in statistics, given the game is all about statistics in the end, the statistical characteristics that the math predicts is useful.

    You can never win or lose every bet, therefore the only thing that matters in the end are the stats.

    Some things such as the maximum streak length on an EC is predicable to within 2 whether it's 50 spins or 50 trillion, the standard deviation on the prediction is INDEPENDENT of the the number of trials. That is kind of amazing that such a tight bound can be put on random.

    The ArcSine law also provides expectations for random walks that challenge most people's intuitions and leads to other implications that are not immediately apparent.

    There are plenty of things the math predicts beyond 1/37 or 1/38, but it's all useless you say. I wonder why casinos carefully track the statistics of each and every player. I wonder why the math and statistics would be in their interest but not yours.
     
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    Err
    Has anyone actually stop to mention that L.A. partage is not used in USA nor in skipptophia so it’s a moot point really. You play whatever is in front of you and adapt to make a profit the best way you can.
    So blow through 69 ring hole may have a valid point in daygovilla but it’s meaningless in the other 90% of the world casinoverse. Spike you get on with your job of making money, next thing you know is some moron will post here suggesting your not playing right because the casinoverse you are using does not employ robotic transgender midgets as their dealers.

    It’s still not to late for ring hole to start a thread and discuss la partage for daygovilla patrons as they quaff garlic bread dipped in raccoon juice.
     
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    I believe some USA double zero wheels do have it, but yes here in Skippytopia it's all single zero wheels aside from the cheap $5 main floor tables. But absolutely no La Partage/ En Prison rule to get half your wager back on the zero with an EC.

    Reducing the house edge by 50% is still nothing to sneeze at regardless if it's single or double zero.

    Say you make a hundred $100 bets, the house edge is $270 on single zero, and $526 on double zero.

    Halving the house edge puts an additional $135 or $263 in your pocket.. that is not nothing!

    But if anyone wants to insist its nothing or it's irrelevant, then you should be ashamed for not donating that much to a charity every time you play as it's clearly nothing to you but everything to someone in need.
     
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