Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Okay big mouth, you keep saying I do not have a winning bet selection. How can you possibly know that if you do not know my bet selection? What answer would you give me if I told you that you do not have a winning bet selection? I know your answer because you have stated it elsewhere and that is: How do you know I do not have a winning bet selection, you do not know my bet selection. So knock it off with the charge I do not have a winning bet selection. Now in regards to your constant put-down of my use of the Marty, let me quote TwoUp:
"Hate to be blunt but a 36u return is a truck load more than 2u."
However when compared to you,
Hate to be blunt but 64u return is 2 truck loads more than 1u.

 

Because nobody on planet Earth who has a winning bet selection would be stupid enough to risk using a Martingale. A Martingale is always 100% of the time a last-ditch effort to win in the casino. It's never the first choice because it's a loser. I don't give a damn if your kitchen table tells you you've got the world by the tail it's meaningless until you go into a real casino and bet real money. Lose your a bankroll couple times and you will curse the Martingale just like everybody else does.

 

I have neither fear nor belief, I have facts. If you have the edge a progression of any kind is not necessary. You can easily make your goal flat betting. I don't care what your edge is any progression will get you in and out of trouble on a regular basis. Who needs that. The whole point of going to a casino or playing online should be to make money the fastest way possible. If you are there to play because you enjoy it, you have problems you need to see a shrink about. Making money in a casino is just like making money at a job. You want to do it as risk-free and as quickly as possible. If you're there because you enjoy taking risks or you love the thrill of winning you have a gambling problem. If you're there because you're greedy you have a gambling problem. If you're there for any other reason except get in get it done and get out you have a gambling problem. This describes 97% of the people on this forum. I could easily use a Martingale and do well with it but I won't because I don't need the risk or the hassle. Win one unit I'm done and gone onto something else that's not soul sucking like casino gambling.

 

Yer wastin yer time with these coconuts. The blows-hard/buffoon/bulls-shits atrist like the spike and his limey counter-part will NEVER pony up and submit their supposed winnings style to scrutiny where they buck up against reals result, on a fly in reals-time. They just harumph and bluster, after the facts about their bs 88% strikes rate, and how they capture 700+ units profits in a coupla hour and magically capture profits buckin up against the retarded tie wager at the baccarats and other nonsenses, and foolishness, fulls-stop, hey hey.

 

I couldn't have said it better myself.

As far as my response to you, refer to TwoUp's posts. He has already answered all of the comments you make to me.

 

Spike, let me make something perfectly clear. I love the Martingale progression, it works for me. So leave me alone. The only thing, let me repeat, the only thing that will convince me that the Marty doesn't work with my strategy is when I lose my initial bankroll of 384 units. BTW, I just played a 6 step Marty session failure and lost 12 units. So it does fail as you say, but now I am expecting 5 to 6 session wins at 64 units per session.

 

LOL! We all love our kitchen table experiences because we can do no wrong. We have it made, we've discovered the Holy Grail. And we keep our head in the clouds and up our butts until we go to the casino and start betting real money and then reality hits us. You'll see, you already know what will happen that's why you're putting it off. That's why you're here talking about it instead of actually doing it. I play the online casinos in my state every single day and win real money every single day.

 

Well your facts and your logic are faulty. I just proved and backed it up with math that a 52% strike rate makes 2u flat vs 36u with a stupid 7 level martingale.

With a better strike rate (you claim 80%) and blending with a positive progression you get a truely frightening exponential growth curve. Hundreds of millions are literally months away with very little capital outlay. I already showed the compound math based on your claims with a 5c bankroll to millions in a few months playing just a few bets a week.

It's like the grain of rice doubling each square on the chess board. 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024, 2048,4096. in another just 20 steps it's 4 billion units then 8 billion then 16 billion, 32 billion from $1 in 35 sessions. Of course you will get capped at about $600k per bet in the higher end casinos which will slow your growth.

This is not some kind of BS cooked up by morons. The Kelly criterion is used by fund managers, serious investors and gamblers and provides the highest returns possible whilst avoiding risk of ruin, it is a positive progression based on your actual edge. You can be more conservative and use half Kelly if you're less certain of your edge.

There is no faster way to safely maximise returns in any market that has a positive edge than using Kelly.

At this point SPIKE you are proving to be an ignorant fool, dishonest in your claims or both.

Since you claim to have an 80% edge and never lose a session your growth curve would have you owning a multi million dollar property portfolio, cars, driver, private jet, pilot, butler, personal chef and a harem within a year.

But you're playing tiddly winks online.

Really.

 

You are hilarious. You start off talking to me by calling me a liar right off the bat and challenging everything I do. So when I turn it back on you, now you're like, quit picking on me, leave me alone. You started this, buddy, when you called me a liar for no reason. What did you think I was going to do, roll over and take it? You don't know what I do, you've never done what I do, you will never do what I do. I'm sure you will ride your Martingale to fame and fortune as everybody who's ever tried it does. LOL

 

You just gave it away that you live in the fantasy world and not in the real world. First of all no online casino is going to let you win any significant amount of money before they shut you down. Once you start winning significant amounts of money in a brick-and-mortar casino using any kind of progression you will not last very long. Casinos hate consistent winners, and they especially loathe consistent winners who use progressions. Casinos are not stupid. So very quickly along your merry route to your hundreds of millions fortune you will be shut down and shut out. That you do not know this speaks volumes about your experience in the real world of gambling and casinos. Even the modest way I play online I know the casinos are going to shut me down eventually because I don't lose. The computers that constantly analyze play are going to notice this eventually and get rid of me. It's inevitable. Just like it's inevitable in a brick-and-mortar casino of getting backed off if you consistently use a progression to win large amounts of money. Welcome to the real world.

 

My local casino takes $600k+ bets on baccarat when arranged, or up to $500k per hand in the VIP lounge.

Players winning and losing tens of millions is happening all the time day in day out.

They also accommodate syndicated players, with auditor, personal body guards and bag man even when they have cleaned out other casinos for tens of millions.

They can typically accommodate $50 million cash paid on the spot, sometimes they may need to organise an amoured van delivery if their on site cash reserves isn't enough but get it they will. Of course they have private entrance and secure facilities for the cash exchange, like all good precious metal storage and custodial services.

I laugh at your online casino tiddly winks, you really have no idea playing for peanuts.

 

Apparently a waiting list for a seat at the table for HPB players . Beam me up .

 

Now we got the full circle HPB and no money Marty winners .

 

Winning 1 HPB unit is just great . Respectable too.

 

Take a hike Spike. TwoUp is your challenge now, not me. He proves things with math, not words as you try to do. Okay, let's start over as though we never had the past conversations. Teach me something useful I can use regarding your method of play. I know your win rate, I know you play a session to a 1 unit win, I know you do not bet until it is playing your game and I know you loathe the Martingale progression. Now, teach me something specific I can apply that will improve my win rate. Thanks

 

I don't care if they take billion dollar bets that has nothing to do with anything. What does matter is if you're a consistent winner who never gives any money back to the casino and only takes money out of the casino. The business plan of every casino on the planet is to make a profit by taking your money and not playing fair in doing it. They are not there to let you win win win. If you believe they are you are just another naive wannabe compulsive gambler living in Fantasyland.

 

He's as dopey you seem to be. He thinks he's going to take hundreds of millions out of the casinos and they're just going to stand there and let him do it. He thinks he's going to put Las Vegas out of business. You guys are hilarious, Frick & Frack the Martingale twins who are going to rule the world with the Marty. LOL

 

You have proven yourself to truly be a moron. TwoUp has never claimed what your saying. He just proved with math that a person with a hit rate like you claim to have can do incredibly well with a progression either positive or negative. Where did he claim to have as good of a hit rate as you do? Where did he claim that he uses a Martingale progression and makes tons of money for himself? He has made no claims at all regarding how he plays or the money he makes. When one person considers you to be a moron that deserves the benefit of the doubt, but when everybody does, it has to be true. MORON. I wish I was as dopey as TwoUp, that would make me ten times smarter than you. He has tons to offer and so far you have offered nothing. If I continue to spar with the fool you are, that makes me a fool. You will not get one more comment from me. So as I said, take a hike Spike.

 

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