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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  2. David Gregory

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    Hey TwoUp, you got give credit where credit is due. Spike has accomplished an unique way the casinos will never shut him down. A win of one peanut a day. OMG, that is genius.
     
  3. TwoUp

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    Some on these forums have never actually seen what goes on in higher stakes gambling, they never got past the public floor with the unwashed masses, and now use online gambling making sub dollar bets over the trailer park office wifi.

    He has to purposely lose so they don't get on to him too. Well that's how he re casts his losses in his own mind to get his 80% strike rate.

    Anyway, greasy home brand peanuts in plastic, not foil, it is for mr spike.
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Bow we know the" unwashed ".
     
  5. SPIKE

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    He said using the Martingale somebody could take hundreds of millions of dollars out of the casinos and I assume he included himself in that statement. Like the casinos are just going to stand there and do nothing while somebody takes them for hundreds of millions of dollars. Inexperience and naivete on the loose, that's what you guys are.

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  6. David Gregory

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    Yes, exactly. What is the game you favor? Do you have a particular strategy you use that you have shared on this forum? If you do have a strategy you favor and have not made it public, that's okay because I have never heard you brag about being a big-time winner. And maybe you are a big-time winner at that, and it is better not to brag about it because you know what happens if you do. The info you do offer here is significant enough. Thanks
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Saint Gregory another " unwashed " ?
     
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  8. SPIKE

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    Actually I win every session, why would I bother to purposely lose, that would be ridiculous. The computer doesn't analyze your game and give you a pass because you lost a few games but still won way more than you lost. All it cares about is the bottom line that all you do is take money from the casino on a consistent basis. Your lack of knowledge about how these things work betrays your naivete about the gambling world. You think a casino's going to just stand there and let you win hundreds of millions of dollars like it is helpless to stop you. It's very easy to stop you and stop you they will.
     
  9. TwoUp

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    I showed using flat bet when you have an edge makes no sense. I illustrated how a progression magnifies your edge, including what I referred to as stupid 7 level marty. I backed it up with the math.

    I said any reasonable progression will work when you have an edge and geometric growth is guaranteed if your claims are true. Of course we are just taking them at face value to illustrate how bogus they are.

    You say you like 2u and sneer at 36u chopping off your nose to spike your face.

    I showed how stupid you are that you're complaining about the problems of having a multi million dollar bankroll.

    It is normal at my casino to see players up $2 million like it was $5. $2 mil matters not to them, they want $20 million or more.

    I don't think you understand how big the bankrolls are here in Australia and Asia. We have gamblers here who turnover more than $3 billion a year.

    Problems you will never have.
     
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    You make statements I think you don't even know what they mean. You are a one-liner cli-che' guy. Explain what Saint Gregory another "unwashed" means, if you can.
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I know the meaning but do you ?
     
  12. David Gregory

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    No, I do not have a clue what it means. I think you just threw together some English words you are familiar with and just happened to end up with that line. Maybe it's a foreign language that only you no how to speak like I have noticed in a lot of your post. Ybi lost.Whort term. Bow we know.
     
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  13. Nathan Detroit

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    The term unwashed was not new to me .

    Thanks for pointing what are typos not foreign words .


    I am also aware of that . Once more Thanks .


    ND
     
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    Okay. I understand the dig Saint Gregory. Most likely means Holier-than-thou. Better than others, A know it all. But what does 'unwashed' signify'? Un-clean? Inexperienced? Untried? What?
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    I knew it in context of a Middle Eastern Religion . Unbelievers .
     
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    Oh thanks, that clears that up. The only way I can think of that term applying to me is: Not believing those who say the Martingale progression just cannot work. It can work as TwoUp pointed out with math that if your strategy has a good strike rate such as 52% you can win big time. But having a strategy that has that high of a strike rate is very difficult to achieve. But an 88% strike rate as one claims, impossible. As intelligent as you are Nathan, why have you not called him out on that claim?
     
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    It's just variance...meaning luck.

    We already know that progressions have no effect on the house edge for the same reason that you can not multiply a negative number times a positive one and produce a positive number.

    In order to win in the long term, you have to change your long term expectation. Meaning you have to be able to predict the result at a rate that exceeds what probability expects.
     
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    Actually it's the only way of betting that makes sense. Unless of course you are a super greedy compulsive gambler then flat betting makes no sense at all. If you are a super greedy compulsive gambler which you obviously are you are in the casino to take as many risks as possible and to make money as fast as possible and as much money as you possibly can. This is why compulsive gambling is a sickness. A normal person sets a reasonable goal, takes as few risks as possible and exposes his bankroll to the unlimited bankroll of the casino as little as possible, he gets and gets it done and gets out. He doesn't experience adrenaline rushes, he doesn't beat himself up all the way home in the car like every compulsive gambler does. I have an older friend who is a compulsive gambler and he dragged me with him for company to a couple of Gamblers Anonymous meetings. You should really go to them it's an eye-opener, the people there sound just like you.
     
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    I totally agree. But as TwoUp has pointed out, if you have a consistent 52% strike rate flat betting, then a progression, negative or positive can put you in the clover, as he says. With the strategy I am now testing, I do not even have a 50% strike rate flat betting. But as luck would have it, I have sessions of (64u's) won 6 times to every 1 loss. I don't get it. But as you say, just luck. However, 257 games played, 8,029 units won, there may be a little more to it than just luck. I really would like to sit down with someone like TwoUp and play the strategy in front of him and have him analyze it to detriment exactly what's going on.
     
  20. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Strike rate is irrelevant if you're not overcoming the house edge. What you should concern yourself with is the long term expectation moving forward. In short, what's the house edge on your bet?
     
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