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Roulette Playing against Records

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Hernan, May 28, 2022.

  1. Hernan

    Hernan New Member

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    Hope I can explain it easy, bear with me, english is not my native language

    I use this sometimes, when its possible at online live roulette in a casino that shows the last 500 spins at a marquee
    I would call this a method, not a system, you can use it sometimes, and some others you wont find the moment to start betting.

    the basics are based on the empiric experience shown by millions of RNG and real spins combined


    first the records

    7th hit : 140 spins
    8th : 165
    9th : 200
    11th : 220
    12th : 250
    13th: 290
    14th : 320
    15th: 360
    16th: 400

    you may find some bigger record , but this is pretty accurate

    how I bet

    first I check the last 110 spins, if there is no number that hit 7 times, then the session is good to play.
    second I find what numbers hit 6 times , and I will only pick up to 3 numbers (no more) and those who were the first ones to reach 6 hits. If there are only 1 or 2, I may later add a third one (and no more)

    whenever a number hits for the 7th time there are two possible outcomes
    I win, or I loose (this means a number I didnt pick was the winner, and will be the next number I will bet alone till I may add 2 more with 7 hits)
    during that game I dont use any progression.
    but if I lose, I will now go for the 8th hit, and so far , I will have 1 number (will add 2 more if needed, no more) this time with 2 chips on each number. Usually when we are close to one record, the next hit comes fast.

    for 7th to 10th hit, I will start 20-30 spins before
    for 11th to 16th I will start 25-35 spins before

    I have more rules to play this, as well as a little system to start at the same time with the first number that hit 2 times after I start betting.

    let me know if you are interested and I explain more.
     
  2. Proofreaders2000

    Proofreaders2000 Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am interested. Please continue :d
     
  3. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    I found it interesting. Please explain more.
    Maybe you can make an excel spreadsheet to analyze this method.
     
  4. Hernan

    Hernan New Member

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    hi
    just note these records, always remember there are 2 steps

    1st step: pick up to 3 numbers , the first 3 ones that hit... if there are more, well, you dont play thos


    4th hit : 75 spins
    5th hit : 90
    6th hit : 125
    7th hit : 140
    8th : 165
    9th : 200
    10th : 210
    11th : 220
    12th : 250
    13th: 290
    14th : 320
    15th: 360
    16th: 400


    use an online live roulette, not RNG they are al rigged.

    step 2. dont use progression. or at least I dont like to do it.

    2 possible outcomes you win and you stop, or you re losing because another number which you didnt pick hit. or you win but it took longer than the record to win (new record) so you are in negative balance.

    from that onwards, you bet inmediately that number and add up to 2 more numbers from that step.

    will try to explain with numbers

    lets say I scan the marquee and find that in spin #100 there are no numbers with 6 hits... so then I will find those with 5, if they are only 2-3 we are ok.. if they are 4,5,6 then I choose the first ones that hit 5 times and discard the others.

    spin #100

    no number was spun 6 times.

    numbers with 5 hits: 4-15-33-5

    the good ones, are the first that hit 5 times, I check the permanenze and found 4-33-5

    on spin 101 or 102 (depending on the time I have to do all calculations) I will start betting.

    Usually a number will hit within 12 spins, the records are really hard to find.

    if a number hits for 6 times then , I win or I lose depending it was a number I didnt added.

    If I lose, now I may be in spin #115-130 close to next record

    I will bet on that 1st number that hit 6 times and add (if it happens) 2 more numbers that also hit 6 times, and no more.

    96% of the times I will win, if not repeat the process and go for the 8th hit.

    I call it a method, finding this is as hard as 15 blacks in a row streak to play red. But you dont use progression at all.
     
  5. Hernan

    Hernan New Member

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    When I lose the first game , lets say I am playing the numbers that hit 6 times, then I start with only one with 7 hits, I may add one more chip in this game, depending how many chips I lost before.
     
  6. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    I found it very interesting, I will simulate these methods with the results I have here.
     
  7. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    If I'm not mistaken your method is somewhat related to turbo Genius repeaters. Have you read the threads there?
     

  8. Denzie

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    Reminds me of a system I made few years back called "Magic 8". It did work nicely but i did move on. The action these days is mostly in first two cycles
     
  9. Rond1nell1

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    Can you share how you do it?
     
  10. Rond1nell1

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    I'm simulating what I understood from this method in live online roulette.
    In the last test it looked like this:
    I followed the first 3 numbers that gave 6 hits after the last 100 spins.
    26 = 6th hit on spin 110, 7th hit on spin 148, 8th hit on spin 155
    25 = 6th hit on spin 122, 7th hit on spin 140, 8th hit on spin 145
    9 = 6th Hit on spin 127 and didn't hit the 7th spin until spin 155.

    If we stopped at round 155.
    We would have placed 45 bets on 26, 33 bets on 25 and 28 bets on 9.
    total spent = 45+33+28 = 106 units.
    We would have hit 4 full numbers = 36 x 4 = 144

    144(gain) - 106(loss) = 38 units of profit.

    I did other simulations and in almost all of them I had similar profits.

    I will continue analyzing this method.

    Did I do something wrong @Hernan ?
     
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    As said in ask the croupier everything is trying to go left to right. #’s 26-25-9; could be the reply 9 in adv 3.

    So, the R4 want to get to 37. Likewise, the R5 want to get to 37. They started lap R6 and also R7.

    Yes #9 has the potential to go R7 position 3.

    The question is how many R5 grow with the potential to go R6 and what if that R6 hits again becomes R7? The match doesn’t happen.

    But it has the potential to be the leader on R8.

    Zumma will let us know
     
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    That is the problem nobody knows WHEN.
    If we knew when it would not matter if we were playing repeats non repeats or anything else.

    I am sure we can all agree on that.
     
  13. hotjohnnn

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    Action was always there with repeaters systems.
    By the way i remember you from roulettecc years ago when you were arguing with Steve for his jaa software and computers.
    Liked the way you kept asking and of course Steve never said yes lets try it lol.
     
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  14. Rond1nell1

    Rond1nell1 Active Member

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    We will never be sure if a number will repeat, but in this method, choosing 3 numbers if the first one repeats quickly, we can end up with a profit.
    It's a risky, but interesting method of playing.
     

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    If it s risky then it s not good...
    If you cannot make long term profits what is the point?
     
  16. Rond1nell1

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    I did a few tests, it can be a profitable method.
    The good thing would be to have a software with about 100k results to test the method and be able to validate it.

    I will continue with my tests.
     
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    Sure keep us informed.
     
  18. Denzie

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    Hmm interesting...I agree that I don't know what's gonna show on the next spin. But I do know what's gonna show in x amount of spins ...(which is all you need to win )

    If you power test a method and measure the average hits , max gaps , .... you certainly can know when to go for it. You can bet , not bet or change your bets anytime...

    Personally I wouldn't care for the worst case scenario that happens once every 10mil spins or whatever.....(Unless you're using a suicide progression lol )

    Once again....the answer lies in advance of Repeaters part 3
     
  19. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Just mentioned this to a buddy Progression
     
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    Above is the chief of the riddlers game. Remember at Saint Steve forum; he said take 3'000 to win 3'000.
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    It can be done.
    upload_2022-6-1_11-33-36.png Repeats at 51 spins stand at 27. 3 more repeats needed in 9 spins to
    have 30 repeats over 60 spins. At 40 spins repeats were +3; had 19.
     

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