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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Comparing yourself to Ed Thorp shame on you. Ed Thorp was actually was a mathematician and could back up his approach with reason and math.

    You are an anti-math uneducated fool who believes in un-"educated guesses".
     
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  2. TwoUp

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    Hand waving waffle of the SPIKE kind.

    You don't even know what random is.

    You don't know what an RNG is or how they work.

    They are called psuedo-random number generators for a reason. It would not surprise me that think the random seed they use comes from the apples inside them.

    You spew more shit than an a broken sewer pipe.
     
  3. TwoUp

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    I already described how they will pass some very superficial tests. Just like a pseudo Rolex sold to clueless idiots is "good enough" to pass, like the idiot you are.

    I heard you know something about selling fake watches on ebay..

    I have previously provided links to the battery of statistical tests and they all fail:

    Even NIST have a suite of tests:

    Don't pretend you understand any of this. You have already declared your hate and disdain for math.

    @SPIKE You are a classic case of Dunning Kruger sitting on your peak at Mt Stupid.

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  4. TwoUp

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    My testing exceeds what the entire planet gambling for many lifetimes could do.

    You don't understand math or statistical significance tests. So you don't speak for me or anyone else who does.
     
  5. SPIKE

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    You did not answer the question. You would naturally ask Ed Thorp why he's not rich from his card counting invention. Do you know the reason? It's the same reason I give. If you read the book you know the answer. What is your best educated guess as to why he didn't play his own system to make a lot of money.
     
  6. SPIKE

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    Twaddle, I know exactly how they work and what they are. You're the one that's confused about what random is. You think all random is the same and it's not. There are degrees and shades of random and it becomes obvious once you start using different sources. You yourself have said here not to use RNG to practice for the casino. Or random.com
     
  7. SPIKE

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    Superficial my ass. RNG's produce random outcomes that are totally acceptable by every casino in the world in their slot machines. There's nothing wrong with pseudo-random just don't use it to test with if you're going to play a true random game. The results in the extreme short-term are not the same. The best way to explain it is RNG's seem to follow rules and there are no rules in true random. You can only see this if you have a winning method of bet selection.
     

  8. TwoUp

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    I have been very specific about what to use. You just don't understand in your land of hand waving nonsense.

    You use the word random without understanding what it means.

    You think random is shades of grey. There is simply random and there is not random. There is no inbetween. That is why PRNGs are called pseudo random, they are not random they are deterministic.

    Like there is a Rolex watch and a watch that is not a Rolex. One that real and one that is an imposter.

    But you are too fucking stupid to understand the difference.
     
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  9. SPIKE

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    Too bad the casino only lets you bet in the extreme short term for which you have no testing results whatsoever. You have no idea what the next result is and there is no testing that will tell you what the next result is. I don't care if you've tested for the next 1000 years. Doesn't help you one single bit in making a bet for the next outcome. Where anything can happen and usually does. This is the downfall of every math guy and it's why casinos love math people. Math people only understand statistics, where to place the next bet totally confuses them.
     
  10. SPIKE

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    There is nothing BUT in between! It's like saying a bird is a bird, where there are thousands of different kinds of birds. There are many many kinds of random, it's obvious if you know what you're doing. But like I said in order to see it you actually have to have a method that wins more often than it loses. A method that wins way more often than losses. Then you can see which random outcomes work and which do not. Don't worry, you will never get there.
     
  11. TwoUp

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    No they do not. They rely on external entropy to function.

    You are not qualified to even discuss.

    If casinos use PRNGs they can be easily beaten as they are deterministic. Their internal state can be recovered observing their output.

    Just as well casinos don't follow your ignorant novice advice.

    Here are some links:

    https://bishopfox.com/blog/untwisting-mersenne-twister-killed-prng
    https://github.com/eboda/mersenne-twister-recover
    https://github.com/BishopFox/untwister
     
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    We need "educated guesses" from a man who is uneducated and sells fake watches on ebay.
     
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    Excuse me. I have not seen things happen with a RNG that happen in a casino (outcome wise). RBRRBRBR. Actually there are a few difference I can think of, when I play my rng four hours I get no free comps and its a lot noiser in a casino. Plus I have witnessed people lose a lot of money. You are forgetting Bubu that I played in casinos many, many times and for real money. Other than that, I want you to explain exactly what the difference is. We are talking win or lose based on outcomes, nothing else. BTW. I played a live Evoloution Craps game last night and won 7 units. I was very nervous the whole time. Not because of my strategy or the size of the unit I was betting. I feared my wife walking in and catching me. It took 39 minutes to win those 7 units and that is a long time compared to playing a rng. Oh yeah, that's another difference. And, playing Live Evolution Craps I noticed no difference than playing a rng, the outcomes were normal and as expected. So, I am all ears to hear what the difference is between playing a rng or in a casino based entirely on outcomes.
     
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  14. TurboGenius

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    There is no difference if the roulette wheel is performing as it should.
    The only difference anyone could ever tell between a live wheel and RNG is a bias wheel and those are just
    unicorns now.
    The truth that no one wants to talk about is that there is no difference.
    Someone will say "give me a list of spins and I can tell you" No they can't. It's nonsense.
    But this lie is common everywhere, as is the one where that dealer is brought out of the back room
    to hit a red number and not a black one... Oh, I've seen it myself ! Lies and nonsense that don't
    belong on a forum. The same ones who say a dealer can hit a specific section of the wheel.
    Even a dealer was on the forum saying it's impossible - but again the truth doesn't matter.
    These people have their urban legends and keep putting them out thinking experienced players will
    believe them but it's the opposite.
    A list of spins from a wheel that is fair or from a RNG that is fair won't show any difference that would
    let someone point out which it was.

    Then the educated guess is nonsense of course as well. That would imply some paranormal ability to
    mentally predict a win - and there has NEVER once been a verified demonstration of this working.
    Not a single time. There was even a million $ payout to anyone who could prove some ability like this.
    So it's just "guessing" where you can be right more than being wrong at times - the "educated" part
    is thrown in to make it appear what it's not.
     

  15. mansi19896

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    the person i mentioned in davids topic proved its possible. He wins 9000 every month. No one in history has ever showed it, but he did. He evantually deleted it too, because it was not he`s main objective to show off or making people believe.
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    Nonsense
     
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  17. mansi19896

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    i saw it, plus he shares how he plays always how he wins.. and do you know the fun part
    he asks you something too for it

    wait for it




    you dont have to pay for anything -
     
  18. Nathan Detroit

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    What caring and compassionate B S. RPFL.
     
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  19. mansi19896

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    that kind of peoples are needed in life :Ah::A:
     
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  20. Nathan Detroit

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    Not system vultures . Honest people pay for information .
     

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