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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. mansi19896

    mansi19896 Active Member

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    and this is the problem with peoples.Give me something only then i do. if i dont get something i wont come and do anything.
    Living like this is limited way and you only become dissapointed in life, but if your fully engaged on with everything around you. Like this devoted way your wellbeing is never affected by anything. You simply do best as you can. You may save many peoples like this too - so they dont waste many years worth of time.
    If you dont know something its fine but if you do and can make something out of it, and you wont, then its tragical way to exist
    Unfortunally money is only way what makes peoples are - if their money is on the line only then their commited like this fully and focused.

    Plus you wont learn anything from he`s videos he keep changing the betting all the time, because roulette is all you never know what happens. Systems simply doesn`t work
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This MJansi is on ignore.
     
  3. Median Joe

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    Isn't all this arguing about RNG vs real spins rather pointless? I agree with Turbo; post a few hundred of each here and I guarantee nobody will be able to tell the difference, as has been shown on the forums several times over the years.
     
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  4. Median Joe

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    Except, apparently, it can't. If it could and does you wouldn't be able to win 80% of your bets. It's just one contradiction after another. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Benas

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    The main difference is that in casinos - you see why ball falls into the concrete box. And if you are skilled you can detect if all is good with generation very fast.
    So it is like if you see some history of the ball falls...

    On RNG you only see a number on your screen - which selected program. How it is selected you do not know and to understand if all is good takes much more time...
     
  6. David Gregory

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    Thank you, my understanding exactly. Seeing as how the next outcome is purely guess work, I would like to say I at least base my next bet on math to some degree. There are certain things mathematically that have a high possibility of happening from one spin to the next: Colors repeat, colors alternate and certain patterns appear more often than others. Of course, it still comes down to a guess as to which of those will happen next. That's why I prefer using the Martingale progression (I know I'll be stoned to death for saying that) because it gives me 6 to 7 chances to guess it right. And most of the time I do get it righ for enough wins before the Marty fails. Furthermore, Bankroll and Money Management play an important part if not the most important.
     
  7. David Gregory

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    Makes no difference at all. Rng's are random just like a Roulette wheel. Neither giving a clue as to the next outcome.
     

  8. Nathan Detroit

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    I shall stay with the live wheel and the RNG up the rectum .
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    The live wheel now , then. and forever .
     
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  10. mansi19896

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    how much you think its possible do get ahead with flat betting before variance kicks in
     
  11. David Gregory

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    Actualy, I think you would like the latter a lot.
     
  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Non on line player . shove it .
     
  13. TurboGenius

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    Not long at all, depending on how you play maybe some people longer than others.

    So I ran a even money test with the same 1,295 spins (35 cycles) flat bet, expected outcome -35 units

    "Low" ended at -3 units and last spin in profit was spin 1,259
    "HIGH" ended at -51 units and never once was in profit, so spin 0
    "RED" ended at -27 units and last spin in profit was spin 303
    "BLACK" ended at -27 units and last spin in profit was spin 635
    *ODD* ended at -27 units and last spin in profit was spin 185
    "EVEN" ended at -27 units and last spin in profit was spin 1,003

    So someone playing Low would have been ok for 1,259 spins, not that it matters because the other
    locations were losing - unless of course they knew to play Low by some mystical force or were
    educated enough to guess *see what I did there* to know when to play which bet......but that's
    nonsense.
    Also, someone lucky enough to be playing Even and Low would have done the best.. but no
    one could have known that ahead of time.

    So I'd say from the data the longest a person could stay in any kind of profit flat betting
    even money locations... 1400 spins ? Hmm. Probably a safe bet that you wouldn't get much
    past that. But hey, that's not bad - you had a 1 in 6 chance of being the player using "Low" so
    that's pretty good odds - but in the end obviously everyone is negative thanks to the Zero.
    Any progression only magnifies the results - so there is never a good way to play the even money bets.
    My opinion. I haven't bet on an even money bet in decades.
     
  14. thereddiamanthe

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    lol LOL L.O.L.
     
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  15. TurboGenius

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    lol.gif
     
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  16. Rond1nell1

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    As always Turbo is thoughtful and sensible in his opinions!
     
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  17. SPIKE

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    Come back after you play roulette in a real Casino for real money with your Martingale for a few weeks and then tell us your thoughts. Right now they're meaningless.
     
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  18. SPIKE

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    I have been talking about it for years. The reason you can see no difference is because you don't have a winning method that wins way more often than it loses. When you have that then the difference is glaring.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    I have an 80% hit rate because I don't bet when the outcomes are not playing my game. Duh. Sometimes I'll watch for 10 minutes and I don't see a single betting opportunity. I see bad variance just like everybody else has but I don't play during that, why would I. I have the advantage of being able to see if my game is being played or not and this advantage is gigantic. It protects my bankroll at all times and lets me make as few bets as possible to attain my goal. So yes, anything can happen and usually does in the extreme short-term only I can see when it's happening and choose not the bet. It's just like seeing that it's raining and choosing not to go to the beach that day. Why would you. Get it got it, good.
     

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    You hold that thought and come back and report to us after you are playing for real money in a real casino with your Martingale at roulette. Personally I don't think you ever will, I think you're absolutely terrified of it for good reason. You should be terrified
     
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