Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Pretty obvious that slipped the keeper.

However we can't accuse anyone of sock puppetry or playing marionette dolls in this topic. There is a dedicated topic for that which if true will result in merging of accounts and a nasty tag on their profile.

 

I totally and completely understand compounding. I totally and completely understand how I could be playing. I also totally and completely understand that I'm 73 years old and I don't want to do that anymore, I don't want to work at anything like that anymore. I don't need to kill myself just to make a bunch of money. There is no drive there, I don't care that much. Just to make money for the sake of making money. I have nothing to spend it on I have everything I want. I play for one unit a session because it fits in with my lifestyle, it fits in with my goal for the month. If I had discovered this when I was 40 years old it would have been a totally different story but I'm not 40 years old anymore or even 50 or 60. When you get older your priorities change. Sitting there playing and playing and winning and winning is about as exciting as watching somebody mow their lawn. I have better things to do.

 

Are you suggesting me and Nathan might be the same person? That's hilarious, I've known Nathan since the Gamblers Glen days. All the people here who knew us then know that we're not the same person

 

Bullshit. There are regular players at my casino in the VIP lounge that sit down have a steak make their $1k for the day playing the terminal with live dealers in the same casino. Decision rate is fast, it's not airball, RNG or any nonsense, real wheels with the ball spun by the dealer.

The casinos rely on the house edge math across all players. The only thing that matters is total action.

Maybe you play in two bit joints. Here the casinos are multi billion dollar enterprises. They want the big players.

 

Tiddlywinks.

To give you an idea of the action they take at my local:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04...sues-high-roller-for-43-million-debt/10962912​

They do get upset when you cancel a $43 million dollar cheque.

You seem to be confused with blackjack players which can get +EV they will force to flat bet if they assess you as an AP. You want to play $500k units? No problem.

 

No casino on Earth will let you win a good amount of money on a regular as rain basis and never give any of it back. Casinos are not ATMs, that's just another gamblers fantasy. If you always win and they know you always win they will deal with you somehow. In Las Vegas in the old days they would break your legs. They can't do that anymore but they still deal with you.

 

You want to play big units like that and always win and never give any of it back, big problem. Casinos are not in business to make you rich they are in business to make themselves rich. If they think you're getting rich at their expense they will deal with you. I'm not talking about a winning streak where they know you're going to lose it all back. I'm talking about when they realize you have a system or a method that never loses they will deal with you. This is why they are so hard on card counters, they know the card counter has the edge and they will do anything to stop them.

 

You are wrong. They accept that there is variance and they let the math do it's thing.

They only back off players on games where advantage play is possible or where obvious cheating it involved. Your personal results are not in their equation for profit.

Action * house edge - overheads = profit

I don't see individual players in that equation.

Again perhaps you play at 2 bit casinos, not billion dollar enterprises where they don't understand the profit equation.

 

This explains how Casino operators look at the game. They care not if 1 player is winning millions, it is part of the expected variance.

This takes the perspective from high roller chip programs where you get a rebate on your action. The programs here give you the rebate on all action, win, lose or draw. The point is that even by eroding the house edge through chip programs the house takes the net turnover point of view, not the individual player point of views. Of course some 2 bit casinos that don't know what they are doing (where you play) will cut their nose off to spite their face.

https://www.888casino.com/blog/casino-promotions/the-mathematics-of-non-negotiable-chip-programs

 

Some more articles that explain the casino math, they all show why spike is a clown:

• https://www.888casino.com/blog/baccarat-tips/risk-analysis-of-baccarat-nn-programs-z-score
• https://www.888casino.com/blog/bacc...-of-baccarat-nn-programs-confidence-intervals

 

True, but in that case it's an argument to not make just one unit per day, as you do. You could make 365 units in a week then take the rest of the year off. The casino will just assume it's a winning streak, whereas if you make one unit consistently every day for a year they're more likely to believe you have a winning system and ban you.

 

And what do you think winning all the time and not losing is. Suspected advantage play which is all they need to back you off. If they even suspect you have the advantage over the casino they are going to back you off. And winning all the time and not losing is about as suspect as you can get. Hell, I've been backed off just for writing stuff down and I wasn't even playing. They thought I might be a wheel watcher. Casinos are always sweating the money, always.

 

If the player winning millions is never giving any of it back they sure as hell are not going to tolerate that. This is a ridiculous conversation. You don't seem to understand that I win every session, for me there is no variance. People like me are the casinos worst enemy because we have the edge and they do not.

 

That would be a very inflexible way to play, my goals change every month. Also in order to stay on top of my game I have to play all the time, everyday. And I don't mean practice play. Most people don't realize a concert pianist has to play his piano a certain amount of time everyday or he loses his edge. What I do is no different.

 

Maybe your 2bit online back everyone off. The billion dollar casino businesses understand the math.

 

LoL, you have to hand it to Spike, I wasn't going to comment but he sure is good at reeling us in.

So let's get this straight!

Spike has no variance unlike the casino who despite having the edge has plenty of short term variance against individual players.

It must be something to do with that 80% strike rate.

Welcome to clown world folks!

 

Nope. When the variance turns - I don't bet.

 

That's why they back off everybody they suspect of having an advantage. Even the whiff of a suspicion we'll get you backed off

 

Nope.

Some of us decided not to play -- pickaboo .. that's easy & simple.

Some of us decided to persist, persevere & self-determined endure through anything ..
weather throughout any tyle of a storm .. being THE storm, & the center of the storm itself.
'
Meaning, not coming, shooting an arrow & running away;
but establish an empfire, that's nonplused no matter what ..

just like the lightning house endures it all with a big FUCK WHO/WHATEVER.

That's a real challenge .. win consistently through continuous betting & never mind, we succeeded.
"Throw my way whatever the fuck you want, show me your worst."

& only getting better at it ..