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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Median Joe

    Median Joe Active Member

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    Spike's basic contradiction is that on the one hand he says "random has no rules", but on the other hand he is accusing TwoUp of goading him into posting the rules he uses. This is a cop out and he can't have it both ways. Either Spike uses rules or he doesn't. If he doesn't (because "random has no rules") then how does he select his bets such that he wins 80% of his bets?

    In every kind of gambling or speculative venture there must be rules which tell you when to bet, based on conditions, past results, or whatever. You find out what these rules are by a process of research and testing hypotheses. The hypotheses must be testable and are rejected if they result in losses and kept if they return an advantage. Eventually you hopefully end up with a mechanical system which consists of rules which more often than not, when used together, result in consistent profits. The basic process is the same whether your "game" is Forex trading, betting on soccer matches or horse races, or roulette advantage play.

    There is no such thing as a "non-mechanical" system which appears to be what Spike and others are advocating. What is non-mechanical system? it's a contradiction in terms. It means your bets are based on hunches, intuition, or precognition. Spike says his bets are based on experience, but what does that mean? It means that through long study and practice he has allegedly discovered that some previous outcomes "point to" future outcomes. And yet he denies that these discoveries are "rules" to be followed, because random doesn't have rules! So what are they, then? lol.
     
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  2. TwoUp

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    Nicely said.

    Careful, you will be accused of haggling for his "non mechanical system".
     
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  3. Benas

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    I will say not 10 but maybe even 1000...but they are not math guys...the math guy is that one who knows...
     
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  4. TwoUp

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    Now you're using big numbers, spike can't count past 10 because he doesn't have enough fingers.
     
  5. SPIKE

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    In your fantasy world but not in the real world. Mathboyz only know the limitations of casino games they have no idea how to exploit them.
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    On the contrary, we find game weaknesses in games that others can't find because they suck at math. For example, would you know how to exploit a slot machine advantage play? How about exploiting a baccarat side bet? A biased wheel? A hole carding opportunity? Maybe an advantage play in a lottery?

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8323668/

    FACT...math nerds rule the gambling world.
     
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  7. Nathan Detroit

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    According to Frank Kneeland his own mother a math expert lost money at the baccarat tables .

    The list of math experts losing at the tables is climbing.
     
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  8. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Dr. Sir A A Have you booked passage to Fantasy Island ?


    Careful with defective boats .
     
  9. David Gregory

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    Thanks for clarifying. I see that some people do offer some helpful insight.
     
  10. David Gregory

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    What do you think the list of people look like who play and don't have a clue what math has proven to be correct. It's probably thousands of time larger than the people who know the math.
     
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    I am not familiar with Frank Kneeland and his mother, nor do I understand what a maths expert is.
    Maybe the mother is a maths expert only in that she knew how much 2+2?

    Let's say in chess there are ranks, there are rankings. If a chess player is a Grandmaster and has a rating higher than 2500 he plays really well.

    There is no such rank - maths expert...

    I also explained why - a player using mathematics at a high level to play cannot be a big loser.
    Of course, there are sick people who no matter that they understand all - will still be looking for adrenaline and loss, but it is an illness...

    I talk with several people who are professors in economics and perfectly know the statistical theory of probabilities, but they still can't understand how is possible to win on roulette...

    So theoretically can be women say, a math teacher which has no chances something to understand about play...
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

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    Caleb , Now that the newer wheels are in favor again of the wheel watchers its time to get back into

    proper action .


    Why waste time on gimmicks . I do not think Kaisan would waste gis time on gimmicks .


    The tables at the Wiesbaden casino are very reliable. Om occasion I am tuned in to their active actual

    permanences.
     
  13. Nathan Detroit

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    Bebas , Thanks. But I do not care what any one does with a game of pure luck.
     
  14. Nathan Detroit

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    Benas , For me a glace at the last 3 decisions and if that meets my standards then my bet

    shall be on LDS. Simple as that .
     

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    Sorry, but I do not know what is LDS...
     
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    Don't feel bad Benas. hardly anybody knows what he is talking about most of the time. He speaks in riddles and codes that only he understands what it means. On the other hand, maybe he doesn't.
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    Benas . I am glad to oblige LDS means" Last Decision showed .


    Another option would be D B L decision before last.



    My respect to you Sir .


    NDE
     
  18. David Gregory

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    Can you imagine Spike trying to hire in at Space-X telling them he doesn't need math to get rocket payloads into orbit. The only thing he needs is experience in knowing when the stars are playing his game, it's time to launch.
     
  19. Nathan Detroit

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    Personality issues are for the low life . Keeping focused on the issue is all what matters ,
     
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  20. Nathan Detroit

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    Any one stepping out of line is getting the Big " I " , Ignore .
     

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