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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. SPIKE

    SPIKE Well-Known Member

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    It's not, how could it be. Every pocket is just as likely to hit as any other pocket. If you think you see patterns it's just your brain interpreting it wrong. Random outcomes cannot form patterns. But fortunately even things that do not really exist can be exploited.
     
  2. David Gregory

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    Because there are mathamatical statistics of the basic 3 patterns forming constantly. The other patterns that form are a combination of the 3 and seem to form within 6 outcomes. Look, it's all guess work anyway, but with the 6-step Marty I get 6 chances to guess it right. And most of the time I do.
     
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  3. Median Joe

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    But all your examples were patterns longer than 6?

    Examples:
    XXXOXXXO Most likely bet X
    OOOOXOOOOX Most likely bet O
    OXXOXXOX Most likely bet X
    XXOXXOXX Most likely bet O
    XXXXOXXXXO Most likely bet X

    Reducing a pattern length by one will halve the number of possible patterns, so with max length 10 there will be 1024. Suppose it takes 15 seconds to mark each pattern, then it will take about 4 hours to work through them all. The holy grail for a mornings work - sounds good to me! :D
     
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  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Can you show these "mathematical statistics"?
     
  5. Median Joe

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    Damn party poopers, lol.
     
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  7. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    ( also agree with Dr. Sir A A and like to add " Past s are od no value.

    Enjoy tour stay at Fantasy Island and the donation to the casino .
     

  8. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    roulette ec is a game of luck but not of strategy .


    p_leae place your bets now .
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    P.S Spiker does not like my opinion e ither .


    " Frankly , I dont give damn. "
     
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  10. David Gregory

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    Here are some of Spikes rules according to what he has stated in the past:

    Rules
    #1 Wait until it is playing my game
    #2 Compare what I'm seeing with what I've seen before
    #3 Examine phases to see if they are reliable or not for an educated guess
    #4 Make a decision to bet or not
     
  11. David Gregory

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    Here is some of your double talk:

    You said: "If you think you see patterns it's just your brain interpreting it wrong. Random outcomes cannot form patterns. But fortunately even things that do not really exist can be exploited.

    Then you say: "Nope, no rules. I compare what I'm seeing with what I've seen before and make a decision to bet or not"

    The only possible thing you could be seeing is past outcomes. They are arranged in a pattern form. You see these patterns and compare them to what you've seen before. It has to be something you have seen before, what have you seen before if not patterns.

    Now this statement of yours actualy made me laugh out loud. "things that do not really exist can be exploited" How in the hell can you exploit something if it doesn't exist? That's actually saying you can exploit something from nothing. I thought only God could do that.
     
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  12. thereddiamanthe

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    No, the betting ranges from 3EC to a single ST bet .. as an extended & pretty much by now perfected parachute;
    that's why its possible to get into +200 spins on rare game occasions with such a low bankroll & still come in profit = events.

    One such game is an event.

    There were 620 of them.

    The hypothetical case is reducing the bankroll & terminating the game, if & when on rare occasion it arrives on such an sxtreme.

    .

    The question is to calculate the expected max,
    the maxf how close by together those can come .. on the basis of q =1 in 620.

    Is q <1 within 140 events
    Is q <2 within 210 events .. or games till profit.

    The stats, relevant to the calculation are attached.
    Rename the file to *.xlsx.
     

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  13. David Gregory

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    Can you just send me a list of generated patterns 6 outcomes long starting with no more than 2 of the same outcomes with every combination? That sshould shorten the number of patterns considerably.
     
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    Funny, how paradoxes can exist, & even thrive .. leaving human minds aghast.
     

  15. Nathan Detroit

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    Welcome to the educated guessing thread ..


    ROFLMAO.
     
  16. Nathan Detroit

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    No one of the fools even tries to find out why it is so stupid to consider the fallacy of past spins .

    Do some research and you will get the answer plus a complete NEW appproach to the EC.

    I have it in full detail . Ready to go .


    IUt is RHE winning approach .
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    All past spins and patterns are meaningless garbage to ne of value and that includes educated guessiing


    Ir is right here in front of me . .
     
  18. David Gregory

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    Yes. Heres one based on a question I asked TwoUp:

    What I would like to see is if you can figure this out with math. Regarding one shoe, how many times will you see the pattern XOX appear, Banker, Player, Banker or Player, Banker, Player? And on average, how many hands between before this alternating pattern happens?

    Ignoring ties.

    Pr(BPB) =
    0.506788499×0.493211501×0.506788499 = 12.67%

    Pr (PBP) =
    0.493211501×0.506788499×0.493211501 = 12.33%

    And both together = 12.67+12.33=25%

    So 1/4 of results will be XOX so on average you will see it after 4/1 = 4 attempts.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    Yeah, those are not rules. Besides, which of those has anything to do with my bet selection because that's what the discussion is about. Not about if I have a rule about wiping my ass when I take a crap, it's about what rules I use to select my next bet of which there are none. Rules do not work with random outcomes, how could they. If someone uses rules they have no understanding of how random works. You might have very loose guidelines, but you really have to treat every single outcome as a new game.
     
  20. SPIKE

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    Your brain thinks they are but in reality they are not. One of the hallmarks of random is that it is incapable of forming patterns. But our brains are pattern seekers so we tend to see patterns in everything even when they don't exist. In roulette we pretend they exist so we can exploit them. But it is a very tenuous slippery slope because it hasno rules whatsoever and can change on the next spin.
     

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