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Roulette Ask Me Anything About Betting the EC's (Even Chances)

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by SPIKE, Dec 9, 2021.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Never wise up a chump. Excellent quote . Makes sense too.
     
  2. TwoUp

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    The simulation hypothesis does not permit a falsifiable prediction so it's not a scientifically valid enquiry.

    Or for you Spikes you can neither prove or disprove it so it is not a matter for science.

    But if is is a simulation, clearly you're an NPC
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-player_character

    In video games, this usually means a character controlled by the computer (instead of a player) that has a predetermined set of behaviors that potentially will impact gameplay, but will not necessarily be the product of true artificial intelligence.
     
  3. David Gregory

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    I think this progression was mentioned earlier in one of the posts. I did look it up and bookmarked it. The version you presented is better. It demonstrates two examples of play through to the end which makes it very clear how it is used. This is not just a progression in a sense, it is a strategy also based on the last outcome to determine where the next bet will be placed. I cannot use this progression with my strategy because my strategy is also based on previous outcomes where the next bet is placed which is completely different. Thanks for bringing this progression to the members attention. Those who play for real money may find this very helpful; especially if they are always looking for something new and willing to give it a try. Just for the fun of it, I'll give it a try also.
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

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    Roulette EC are a Fantasy Island mirage being over promoted for some reason .


    Not being handled correctly they are losers .
     
  5. SPIKE

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    In every possible Sim you're either a garbage man or in a mental institution thinking you're a math genius. When you're really a garbage man. Or trash man or rubbish man or whatever crackpot name you call it in that heat hellhole where you live.​
     
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  6. SPIKE

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    That used to be my motto, because it's always true. Look at all the chumps here I tried to wise up to no avail. It's a waste of time.
     
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  7. SPIKE

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    Any strategy that involves a progression has its own built-in timebomb waiting to explode. You chose the granddaddy of all explosive progressions and it will have an extra big kaboom.
     

  8. TwoUp

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    If you just wanted to use the staking plan with your own bet selection then ignore the diagonal 0 bet cells cells (skip through them, always skip through any 0 cells). Simply start in the upper left blue-green cell and move one cell right on a win and one cell down on a loss. When in the yellow zone, you move one cell down on a win and one cell right on a loss. Always bet according to your own bet selection.

    Any win streaks will be capitalised on and losing streaks will be a lot shallower than a martingale, if you study the grid you will see that bet sizes can regress slightly on loss streaks.
     
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    You're a simple fella hey.

    Positive progressions don't explode.

    Does a 1-2 progression "explode and go kaboom?"
     
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    They are called truck drivers here, the rubbish collection uses robotic arms to collect curbside waste for recycling, landfill, and green/vegation waste for effective composting.

    Recycling waste is also processed and sorted with robotics and machine vision. There are people who work in waste processing centres, like any production line.

    I know it's too much math, science and technology for you old timer to contemplate, with all the robotics, data collection, machine vision and artificial intelligence and process control systems just for waste management. Even handling the garbage is more complicated than a roulette wheel.
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Free play mode (pretend mode) isn't the same thing. Sometimes they're set to a positive pay back. They are designed to entice the gullible to play for real money. They also enable "could of, would of, and should of betting"...curve fitting your results to fit your desired results.

    What's sad is that many system guys can't comprehend why waiting X number of spins to bet is worthless.
     
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    Look TwoUp, he is just insanely jealous he couldn't make the Marty work. He thinks if it didn't work for him, it can't work for anybody. He believes all the math and science that points out the Marty is doomed to fail because he failed with it. But that's where his belief stops. He doesn't believe a thing regarding the math and science that he is also doome to fail with his Peanut Strategy. Actually, he probably already has. That's why he spends so much time on this forum arguing in defense of his failed educated guessing. His new game now is to see if he can cleverly defeat the science and math that backs probabilities. He is just a debate artist and nothing more. If you present him with 2 + 2 = 4. He will immediately argue you're wrong. You know nothing, you are a moron to believe that. That is just a made up calculation and doesn't really exist. Quit presenting such stupid nonsence and leading people astray. Wow, now that I come to think about it, this guy has all the characteristics of Satan. A hater of the truth and a lover of what's false. Humpty Spikey sat on a wall. Humpty Spikey had a great fall. All of the science and all of the math, couldn't pull Spikey out of the trash.
     
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    Same old trick used when Forex "casinos" started years ago. Lure the gullible into thinking they can win with the free play.

    Anytime the house is taking the other side of a trade or bet online, the probablity of shenanigans is almost certain.

    I only ever use regulated exchanges or services for trading or betting in my country, not "go get fucked" offshore jurisdictions. If they want to close accounts or delay, limit or mess with withdrawals, fix the results, claim a system error or glitch, what comeback do you really have?

    For casino B&M only because the regulations in my country are robust.

    Even with regulations betting services like Betfair have enough tricks to screw over punters within the regulations. Delay trades, front run, dark pools from their retail betting, premium charges and unscrupulous calculation methods. The days of independence and fairness are over.
     
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    Oh. okay I see. I'll give that a shot. I hope it works better than the Marty because everytime I move to bet the 6th step, it really makes me nervous.
     

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    If you don't have an edge flat betting, then the Marty isn't going to help, for the same reason you can't multiply a positive number times a negative number and produce a positive result.
     
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    I sure hope this post wasn't aimed at me. I do not use any games that offer free play. I use un biased RNG's for testing.
     
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    What if your bet selection is good enough to hit 95% of the time within 1 to 5 trys and you use a 6-step Marty? And then on rare occasions it busts on the 6th step. What if your session win rate looks like this: WWWWWWWLWWWLWWWWWLWLWWWWWWL. That's how mine looks.
     
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  18. SPIKE

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    If you have a system that gives you positive results why the hell would you need a progression. Just increase the amount your flat betting. I could use any progression I want with positive results but I don't because it's a waste of time. The only one I would seriously consider is the oldest one there is which is let it ride, commonly called the parley. It's the one that was used in Europe a couple hundred years ago almost exclusively because you would never risk more than one unit of your own money at any given time and your bankroll would last longer.
     
  19. SPIKE

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    You mean in a real Casino betting real money or at your kitchen table betting Monopoly money. I know you think it's one and the same, but surprise! It ain't..
     
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    Again with the Debbie Downer attitude. Leave the guy alone, he's got a winner, let him go to the casino with his life savings and come home a millionaire. Spoilsport..
     

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